Tannoy Westminister VS dc10 Instrument Grande V


looking for a large formal loudspeaker for our fairly large formal den 28x40 12 foot ceiling oak floors the space is open and not cluttered I'm not looking for magico even though they are my neighbors and don't like the looks of the big Wilson's plus they are too $$$ I want something that looks like real wood is very efficient and is 50K or less!

Steve
berkelyaudiogeek

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Where did you hear about dc10audio?

Both the Westminster and the Grande Voix are formal looking but the sound is quite different. Both speakers use a full range driver one a massive 15"FR only and the other has a 9" FR with a 15" bass unit and a tweeter which means it's 4 ohms the Tannoy is actually 10 ohms?

No one has asked about your equipment collection? are you tube or SS?? If you are using an 8 watt SET I would recommend the Tannoy if high power KT88 KT90 either and if you are using high power SS neither though the dc10 will rock with the right solid state amp it will not rock with the wrong one because they are way too efficient so if the amps first watt is empty so the sound will be.

You must tell us about your gear.

You live in Berkeley? Magico is your neighbor correct? so why are you Berkely (spelling) audio geek? are you Berkeley audio??

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2K watt monos? Well how about focal Grand Utopia. I don't know how those monster monos sound at low levels could be sublime with one of the high-efficiency models you're asking about but you don't need high efficiency!!! You have the mother load of power. I think your McIntosh salesman is happy what does he think???

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Pryso,

Yes, you are correct it is a single apparent source two way or coax I always forget that in this day of FR drivers. Good to know that the Tannoy likes power but Berkeley has 2,000 watts RMS! I think his system is rather tricky to match and I would not pair the Tannoy or other high efficiency speakers with the McIntosh system.

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I think you are really looking at the wrong speakers.

Both the Westminster and the Grande Voix are really better suited for high-end tubes or solid state systems which have a full sonic presence in there first watt, you have gobs of mega power (if you are sporting the new McIntosh mono blocks ... 2,000 Watts per channel?) I have seen people try to match ultra efficient speakers with big solid state systems and it usually turns out bad.

Anyone else care to chime in?

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Come on Guys / Gals? ..Really?

I work for dc10audio and we are too busy for all this banter and all the silly and probing emails.

We build speakers. Some are modestly priced and some expensive. Are they the best ever made?? That is our driving goal along with making something totally original.

People have to make their own choice and inane comparison on audiogon only HURT what we are trying to do so please stop! Mountain high's posts have soured more than two nice sales for us (that we know of) if he was trying to help..he did not and he no longer posts here. :)

Customers are welcome to write a testimonial if they wish good or bad and we from time to time may post it on our website but even then we are not looking to leverage testimonials into sales because that doesn't work anyway and they make us a little paranoid. When customers ask about posting on audiogon we ask please do not though it does seems silly to request that people do not post about dc10audio if they want to we're a free Country still?

... are we really that big a threat to the "box-o-drivers" Gang? You know who you are.

To the Chap that keeps asking about port turbulence:

Again, 3rd time I will answer: the problem was solved with simple aerodynamics..(yes, both in and out) the resonator helps nullify standing waves offers damping and gives tooth and texture to vocals and strings as well as makes upper bass have more dimension. David (dc) has been building this format since 1980 and sold his first pair of dc10's in 1979 in Reno Nevada.

To the Chap asking about our product being built in a garage?

No, they are not. We have a 2K square foot mill-shop and our building on Academy road (which does have a rolling 12' freight/ garage door) in Santa Fe, NM which is an assembly shop an unfinished listening room, office and two bathrooms you can verify the commercial status of our building by contacting the City of Santa Fe.

Shame on you!!

The true cottage industry was born in a garage. Even apple computer was borne in a garage! Buy polka audio and 20 others like it if you want corporate, boring, crapola!

Let's support the cottage industry.

Let's move on here:

Tannoy? What's better? All things considered..... Nothing!

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We hope the have the L'Instrument Grand Voix at the T.H.E. show in Las Vegas this coming January!

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The only "catch" with Tannoy's in general is they take 6 months to a year to break-in which in my opinion is a minor flaw in the driver design; I think the spiders used are too stiff for the lightweight diaphragms used and would be improved with the use of a stable yet more flexible spider. IMHO

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Just remember that the Tannoy will actually sound very good after a 1 year break-in / burn-in!