Talon Loudspeakers


Has anybody heard the Talon loudspeakers? Any thoughts? Especially the Talon Peregrine speakers ($6,000). Thanks.
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Glreno--I am driving my Khorus' with Lamm 1.1 Mono blocks. If you are not familiar with this amp it is tube in the second gain stage and solid state in the others. It gives that wonderful mid bloom yet with all the authority of Krell KSA 250 in the bass combined with an Audio research VT 200 in the mids and highs. Although I am still not completely sold on the Talon's (getting closer each day) I have yet to hear amps that out do the Lamm's. They make the Khorus' sing and also my VR 6's too. Boy am I having a good time.
Glreno, I'm currently having an amp shoot out. I've owned a pair Pass Labs Aleph 2's for a while now and they are great amps. But I think that the Alephs area little soft with this speaker(Talons). I've just completed a home audition of an incredible new design that blew me away. This is of course the EVo which I've mentioned before. I think the EVo might be a liitle forward on bright, forward speakers. That's where you use the real smooth, softer Alephs. The Bel Canto is a real eye opener(ear opener). I've got a Llano Trinity 200 on the way. It's bought on a thirty day home trial, can't beat that. I've heard very positive things about the Llano amp, one thing is for sure it will do a lot to top the EVo. But I'll see(hear).
Your never ending quest to build up the Silverline products is obnoxious and a lie. I had the Silverline Sonatas and I can tell you that you DON'T get what you pay for. The cabinet work is horrible and they use vinyl and not wood veneers. The workmanship is horrible. The bottom plate ripped off mine with minimal effort! The wires inside were barely solderd. In fact two of them were just leaning against the post! The whole design was copied and silverline was sued by Avalon. In haste to make a replacement product, 2 new models were created without much thought except to raise the price. Check the market out. They are selling sonatas cheap and for good reasons. The specs don't live up to the performance. The bass is weak and un-natural. The mids are not coherent with the other drivers. Don't try and get support after the sale. I tried and was basically told I was at fault and would have to pay for everything. Try another speaker, you will thank me for this advice. Joseph audio, coincident are twice the speaker for about the same cost. Stop being ripped off by marketing scams and false specs. And certainly don't listen to the rantings of joeco and his peers. Listen for yourself and buyer beware! Mark
Mike at Talon Audio: Thanks for your post. Although you thing my post was “getting personal” and have called me “uncouth” I take no offense, and hope you have taken no offense either. Being personal or offensive was not my intention. Being accurate was. I don’t think that there is anything uncouth about posting my honest opinion on the web, especially when I “shared all the facts” I had. Nothing injurious was intended by the reference in my 9/19 post to an audition in your home. I thought that mentioning that I heard them in your home would merely illustrate that I heard the speakers under fine listening conditions through an excellent system. (I thought your downstairs large listening room was rather good for how wide and very deep it is – essentially a dead back end. It’s an enviable sound room, as is the amplification in your system.) You obviously don’t recall that I called you only after having heard the speakers playing in one of the model homes at a metropolitan are home show. I asked where I could hear them since the local dealer listed on the web site has or had a disconnected telephone number listed. You invited me to your home and it seemed to me like that was a regular occurrence. I didn’t asked for and didn’t think I was getting any special treatment. I accepted the gracious invitation and we made an appointment. At the appointment, I also accepted your encouragement to stay longer for a home theater demonstration. (An impressive one, I might add – better than home theater systems I’ve heard with Wilson Cubs, and in some ways than all Meridian systems.) After an audition of nearly an hour and a half where you guarded the remote control carefully and even played several tracks off CD’s I’d brought, you asked as I was leaving what I thought of the speakers. I was at something of a loss of what to say because, frankly, I had been “under-whelmed” after what I’d read about them. I told you that for 6 months or more I had been actively searching for new speakers and up grading my system and was hoping that my search for speakers might end with Talons. I indicated expressly that I did not think that the Khorus’ sound staged anywhere near as well as the Wilson Watt Puppy 6s, IMO. That they didn’t surprised me since you’d told me that the speaker designer had spent some years working at Wilson Audio before you found him and started Talon Audio. I mentioned the Chesnokov: Spaseniye sodelal by the Turtle Creek Chorale (track 3 of Reference Recording’s Sampler Volume 2 HDCD) and how the choir and hall ambiance didn’t spread out to either side of the speakers or in any degree of depth or height with defined positions of choir members as they did with the Wilson’s and some other speakers. I’ve heard that track and others we listened to through many well thought of speakers recently. I also compared the Khorus’ to the Maggies, questioned the Khorus’ midrange, and praised the bass, especially that of the Talon sub woofer. That was your chance. Why didn’t you tell to me that you had some new cables? (you did indicate that you loved your power cables, by PS Audio, I believe they were, and you kindly offered to loan me one, to which I politely declined since my quest is for speakers right now.) Why didn’t you say that the Marantz was a day old? Or especially why didn’t you tell me that the speakers were not broken in? Honest, until I say your post, I’d assumed they were broken in and that there were no bugs in your systems as you describe in your post above. What else could I expect? Surely the President of the company would have a well oiled pair of the flag ship speakers all broken in, right in his own home. Unfortunately my ears do not have the ability to detect whether or not something is broken in or not, or that components are a day old, or that cable is new, especially if the implication or assumption is that they are. As I was leaving I mentioned, and you encouraged, that I should hear the speakers again. In spite of being disappointed, frankly, in what I’d heard, I said I’d like to hear them again. You mentioned that you’d have a bigger manufacturing facility opening soon that would even have an audition room. I said I’d be happy to have another listen there when that facility opened. And that is still true. You need not “challenge” me to a second audition. Please let me know when and where you have a properly broken in pair and system to audition, hopefully with a good analogue source. (Yes, I still love the big black disks.) Mike, if you’re trying to sell these speakers on patents, reviews, reputation or pedigree of designers and hype, you may have significant success. (The cabinets nearly sell the whole thing themselves. I expect my wife would love them.) But I’ll buy them only if they sound great, and better than anything else within my budget. (Besides hearing Talon’s again, there are a couple of speakers I want to hear yet before I make a final decision.) In conclusion, it appears, all Audiogon readers, that anything I’ve said about the Talon Khorus speakers should be completely discounted. Preston.
Trelja: Which Concident speaker did you buy? I love their interconnects. I'd really like to hear the Mellenium, Total Eclipse and Super Eclipse. I'm surprised you didn't have anything good to say for the Legacy Whisper. What kind of electronics backed them up when you've heard them?