08-22-14: Doak Jeezziz,,, after reading all this stuff it feels really good to put an LP on the TT, drop the needle and relax. ;-) Very poetic but unfortunately not completely true. Plenty of hand wringing and tightened sphincters and cumbersome ritual in vinyl land: http://www.head-fi.org/content/type/61/id/1172077/ |
08-19-14: Jafox Well guys as reported before, I just have not experienced dramatic differences in transports over the years. That's odd since I have. I have been an advocate of bypassing the puter by using a wireless/ethernet-based transport. I have an Aries now and it creams the Mini via USB or via a converter. |
Outstanding review John. I think people miss the Lampi magic with the lack of due diligence. |
John, I was in the twin cities two weeks ago visiting family. I got to hear two different megabuck systems and it was fun. Next time around, I will have to swing by to hear your rig.
One reason why you are "hearing" so much from the Lampi is your speakers. Panels are truly a see-through apparatus. A lot of folks don't have that privilege. My current speakers from Dale Pitcher possess panel-like attributes, and it showcases the abilities of my new L7 nicely. Thank you again for the detailed review. Keep up the good work.... |
Jafox, I am fiddling with transports for the 7 and I prefer a Teralink USB converter with a $2 RCA digital cable over a Mac mini via USB. I am looking into either an Aries or possibly the "Source" from Geekwave (aka Light Harmonics). Lucas is also working on a DSDish transport of some sort. Time will tell. The take home message with digital is the transport is as or more important than the dac. It needs just as much tweaking... |
08-24-14: Jafox Ok. A bit of semantics going on here. When I referred "transports", it was about CD spinners. I have not compared systems containing stored files in memory yet. But even so, I seriously doubt that the differences come even close to those I observed with tube differences above. I just got an Auralic Aries, and it clubbed my Mini. I have not done any tube rolling with the 7 so I cannot speak to its overall impact. |
AGear,
I am hearing BIG talk about using an Intel i7 Machine running Windows Server 2012 and then using Audiophile Optimizer to shut down the non-essentials and finally using JRiver/JPlay/Foobar as the playback engine. You can further enhance this by CAPS-ing out the computer, ie board tweaks and LPSUs up the wazooo.
People are saying this makes an unbelievable transport. No thanks. I am a Mac guy. I was weaned on PCs (AT&T desktop in circa 1980), but left them behind in 2008 and have not looked back. I have read all of Kdavis' verbiage, and a lot of his feedback is through the prism of DSD up sampling, etc so who knows. Its still a noisy computer. I want a dedicated server/transport with no player software and no need for tweaks. I know computers well, have spent far too much time hacking into them and tweaking them, and I have no desire to spend anymore psychic energy on them. |
08-21-14: Bmoura Maybe so.
On the other hand, some companies like exaSound specifically recommend against using JPlay. See their write up at www.exasound
Thanks for the link. This is a quote from the Exasound site. I wonder if this is true? ASIO provides native DSD support. Alternative implementations like DSD Over PCM (DoP) rely on hiding a DSD bit-stream within PCM data. This workaround requires sending a marker byte every two bytes of DSD data. It causes 33% inefficiency. This is a problem when very high sampling rates like DSD128 and DSD256 are used. The efficiency problem is further compounded for multichannel DSD applications. Think about streaming and processing a marker byte every two bytes of DSD data, 352,800 times every second, and then multiply this workload 8 times. This is what happens when DoP is used for 8-channel DSD256 stream. In addition DoP is sensitive to stream errors. If a marker byte is lost, the DAC has to revert to PCM mode, and with the next detected marker it has to switch back to DSD. |
08-26-14: Mrmb Hi Agear, I'm interested in the Mac mini Aries comparison. Did your mini have an external linear power supply? How about a SSD? How much RAM did it have? Its a latest generation but unmodded Mini. I did use it with and without a USB converter. People are offloading their highly modded computers (Jwrace) based on verbiage I have read on Computeraudiophile. To be clear, I have always had a streamer bias despite being very computer literate. I still need to purchase an audiophile grade USB cable. |
08-26-14: Dragon_vibe Has anyone compared this to the MSB DACS?
I did with the Lampi 4 and found the MSB very transparent and cleaner sounding. I wander if the Big 6 can match or beat the MSB. A L7 owner has the big MSB stack and prefers the 7. He goes by AlRainbow in Whatsbestforum.... |
08-26-14: Mrmb Thanks Agear! Although I haven't had the opportunity to hear for myself, most concur that a linear power supply does much to enhance the Mac mini. Because I believe the only difference between the base Aries and the upgraded one is a better PS, I was wondering how close a mini similarly configured, would be to the Aries.... Its not necessarily an apples to apples comparison as the Aries has other proprietary components internally including their USB output, clocks, shielding from RFI and EMI, etc. I would rather have an audiophile grade streamer designed from the ground up by a company with an engineering pedigree than a DIY product that you create piecemeal. Again, that's strong bias talking. Also, according to some, the effect of a linear supply on a Mini is partly dependent upon its vintage. I have had one engineer who is in the DAC business who claimed that linear supplies are no better than a switching supply in more recent generation of Minis. That gives me pause. I have also had friends who had Minis and/or PCs modded to the gills who walked away unimpressed and went back to spinning plastic so who the hell knows. The only way is to try an Aries yourself. |
It takes much time and effort to assemble a system to achieve a hint of live music's 3D presence and only a matter of minutes to destroy much of what had previously been achieved. +1. That's everything, and who would think a rectifier change would bring that to the fore. Makes me wonder what other Lampi owners are hearing or not hearing. I recently introduced a new USB cable (Totaldac), and it was like a system upgrade. I have yet to roll tubes but will be doing so soon.... |
08-30-14: Abruce Interesting analogy between Lampizators and snowflakes Granny Ironically, the same thing has been said about TRL. I love both companies BTW. They very much remind me of each other.... One of the former lead engineers from Cary told me that point-point wiring and a more artisanal approach tends to foster "snow flake" production idiosyncrasies and was one reason why they (like so many others who spit stuff out of China) migrated to circuit boards. I for one still like to support manufactures, US or not, who product hand built, artisanal, non-outsourced products. |
10-04-14: Sksos1 So tube rolling has been a great exercise and lots of fun now what hasn't surprised me is that ac cords change the sound of this dac to a good degree. I've settled on am ALLBIT Consequence by Audiomica. What has surprised me is USB cables all sound so different and can make or break the sound as well. Again I've settled on Audiomica's Pebble Consequence that is full sounding with controlled bass and just pain musical.
(Dealer disclaimer) USB cable makes a big difference on my 7. Totaldac USB cable is king.... |
09-01-14: Grannyring One day when there is a one box solution and with the ease of a CD player where I can access and download with no ripping etc...I will do it. That would be something like the Aries. The only "labor" would be ripping your files (which you have already done). It is a lot less labor intensive than spinning plastic and you end up exploring and listening to a lot more music. Being a true red blooded phile, I suspect you ditched the Lampi and Offramp cocktail due to SQ deficiencies.... |
09-02-14: Joecasey 09-02-14: Grannyring Ha! No, my second set and these are better sounding. Mine look wonderful and I will email you a picture if you like. I believe you ... best I stop hijacking the thread. Joecasey doing what Joecasey does best. Audio jihadist. We're just not sure what his particular cause is....:/ |
I have the same rectifier in my 7, but there is no clear consensus on where to go from the Lampizator crew. |