Hi, some of the post suggest that the AH fuses sound organic, does that this happen at the cost of losing some clarity, speed, detail?, I'm assuming that the AH stands for audio horizons? ,what is the cost of the AH fuses? Do they work to good effect on solid state gear? |
Thankyou wig for your response post, I'm also interested in more feedback from jazzonthehudson on the AH platinum fuses, Charlesonedad, are you going to pull the trigger on the AH fuses? |
Hi lak, I'm with you on waiting for Charles1dad to report his impressions , his taste in sound is similar to mine, I trust his ear's, an example, Charles said, body, naturalness, tone. |
Are the beeswax and platinum fuses made by the same company? |
Hi Charles, I have to have 4 large fast blowing fuses, not sure what the spec value is? , hard to read the writing on the fuses, mmm, maybe Almarg or someone can tell me, would the cost of these fuses for me be $400.00? |
Thankyou Charles1dad for the follow-up, please keep me posted, if the red's work for you after full break in, then I will jump on the band wagon, the first place I will put them will be in the modified krell 700cx, BTW, will be very expensive!
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Charles1dad, I have the furutech gtx-rhodium outlet's, 2 of them, and the wall frames, however, as good as they are, Chris at vh audio emailed me about the new flagship furutech gtx-rhodium NCF outlet's, the new NCF only comes with the Rhodium version's for the outlet's, go to vh-audio and check it out Charles, BTW, I also knew about the sr-red's when they first come out, but I didn't know enough about the sound to pull the trigger, I trust your ears, so likely it's a done deal on the fuses, but I will tell you Charles, I've tested a lot of outlet's, not the afterburner 8 you have, and far and away the furutech gtx-rhodium is the best for my system, lol, now I'm going to upgrade to the new nanotechnology crystal formula furutech gtx-rhodium! |
Hi knghifi, furutech just introduced a new top outlet, download the pdf file from Chris at vh-audio, kinda cool, take a peek and tell me your impressions, the ncf gtx- rhodium, merry Christmas. |
Knghifi, I got my furutech gtx-rhodium outlet's last Christmas 2014, I'm happy with what I have, but interested in wanting to know the sound called improvement, I should be able to audition a ncf gtx-rhodium when I'm ready too, Chris sent me the gold and rhodium version's to try last time, I bought 1 gtx-rhodium from my friend Steven Klein of sound of silence, and the other gtx-rhodium from Chris vanhause of vh-audio, Steven is audiogon member sksos1, both were new, both gentleman are great to do business with, merry Christmas to you as well. |
Charles1dad, thankyou for the up date, I enjoy what you have to say here, congratulations, however, I'm not sure about your after burner 8 outlet, but my furutech gtx-rhodium outlet's took all of 300 hrs to burn in, cheers |
Running a high end receptacle on a refrigerator or deep freezer is always a good idea, these types of appliances cycle electricity up and down, I recommend 300 hrs, 24-7. |
Hi macdude, I haven't pulled the trigger on the red's yet, what's the retail of the beeswax fuses? |
Charles1dad, you have any new feedback yet? |
Thankyou aolmrd1241 for your reply, mmm, that's quite costly, do you believe the beeswax fuses are nearly twice as good as the red's? |
Hi Oregonpapa, I enjoyed reading your impressions of the quantum chips with the sr-red's fuses, we'll said, very exciting indeed, also, I like this thread, thankyou |
Charles1dad, I must mention why the thick fiber glass gain boxes sound best, isolation from vibrations! Plastic is terrible, metal can ring, and isolates nothing. |
Hi Charles1dad, thankyou for your reply, however, hope no one here trips on what I'm about to tell you, remember when I said I tested high end receptacle's?, OK, we'll the outlet's yielded some interesting facts! , the stainless non magnetic screw's that come with the furutech wall frames are terrible sounding, now, since you believe in magnetism, like your cable's, I found that zinc highly magnetized screw's that are common place used in most standard house wiring works to very, very, good effect, but you have to go to your electrical supply house and get bigger diameter, and longer length for the outlet wall frame and receptacle it's self to screw in the electrical gain box, btw, thick fiber glass gain boxes sound best, I done all this testing December 2014 for a couple of months, you are the first I have ever told this to on audiogon thread that I can remember, hope this helps, it gave me a good noticeable improvement, cheers. |
Thankyou macdude for your reply post. |
Mmmm, that is some interesting information Davidpritchard, where can I get the Frycorder?, thankyou for sharing such a good post. |
Oregonpapa, I enjoyed reading your feedback on the sr-red's, very well said, I enjoy excitement in audio, these days is difficult to come by at this cost point. |
I agree with you knghifi, we'll said, cheers |
Wow!, I'm happy I didn't get the red's yet, mmmm, I believe I will get the black's, synergistic has been spot on with their claims of performance, so, I believe that this new fuse has to be somewhat better, glad I've kept up with this enjoyable thread. |
Hi knghifi, as you know, I own the furutech gtx-rhodium outlet's, please keep me informed here of your impressions of the new furutech NCF gtx-rhodium outlet's. |
Knghifi, I’ve got some very positive feedback from my friend sksos1, Steven, on the new NCF furutech connectors, he is very impressed, Steven said that the wpo’s have not started shipping from Japan yet, when they do knghifi, I’m buying them from Steven, his company is called, sound of silence, yes, the very same maker of vibraplane air isolation platform’s for audio. |
Hi Davidpritchard, my sentiments exactly about the full furutech gtx-rhodium outlet's, but I fixed that by useing zinc highly magnetized screw's in place of the stainless steel none magnetic screw's, sksos-steven has just received two ncf furutech gtx-rhodium outlet's for review, he will be posting his comparisons of the original furutech gtx-rhodium and the ncf on the taralabs thread after they burn in, I'll pass along what he has to say, if it's a substantial improvement, I'm buying them. |
This is quite interesting, it may turn out that the sr-red's are more musical than the black's, as the old adage say's, to much of a good thing can turn into an unsatisfying sound. |
Charles1dad, you know I’m in the musical camp as well, I’ve listened to component's that cost as much as a house that did nothing for me at all, I’ve got more musical pleasure from modded 2,000.000 speaker’s than 50,000.000 speaker’s, the merry go round is always a hit or miss, sometimes, cost has nothing to do with what can make an individual Happy. |
I agree, flip the black fuses. |
Charles, mmm, you are going to compare the red's vs black's? , if so, I look forward to your impressions, and appreciate your efforts. |
Bravo! , the findings of the sr-black's are resulting in what I needed to confirm, very informative thread, enjoyable as well. |
I have really enjoyed this thread and respect all of you here, so, I am asking for you gentleman to chime in on a thread called, Focal utopia Be nova vs magico q3 speaker's, see you there. |
Hi Charles1dad, thankyou for a good response post, you have told me more of what I wanted to know than most of the post on this thread, down to the changes these sr-black's go through, cheers Charles1dad. |
Hi Charles1dad, thankyou for the feedback on the sr-black's, I do have a question, my digital front end has fuse chips instead of glass fuses, is it worth converting to a fuse holder and inserting the sr-black's? , now my modified krell 700cx amplifier has 4 big glass fuses, I remember krell told me they were fast blowing fuses, however, I cannot read what value is written on the fuses, can anyone here specify the value of the fuses for the krell 700cx? |
I'm curious to know what the total amount of hrs that the sr-black's take to finalize their break in period? |
Does anyone know the final burn in time of the sr-black's? |
Geoffkait, I take your challenge! , I know exactly what each and every piece of gear I have takes to burn in, even my furutech gtx-rhodium outlet's , and yes, I do study and do critical listening with every piece, I use straight music and patience to burn in everything, sure it takes longer, and it's really unpleasant, however, I assure you I can validate the time of burn in, cheers |
P59teitel, thankyou for your response post, the consensuous vote here seems that you will hear a good improvement at 75 hrs, not sure, no one has had a finalized assumption of how long these sr-black's take, 150 - 200, or maybe 300 hrs?, I'm thinking 150 hrs? |
Davidpritchard, my modified krell 700cx uses 4 fast blow fuses, so yes, there is product out there that uses fast blow fuses in amplifier's. |
Hi everyone, just talked to Ray Muchler, the service department manager there at krell, whom is one of many I've had a long relationship with for year's, talked about my modified krell 700cx, the four fuses inside are agc 1 amp fast blow fuses, agc- meaning, the big fuses, he also stressed strongly to stay with same value with the fuses, these are low current fuses for the amplifier he said, part of the power supply, so, do you guys believe I will get the same leaps and bounds of quality sound considering this application is entirely different than any body's here? |
This is not the first time I’ve heard about synergistic research fuses blowing like this, Almarg’s post is spot on, you see, I’ve never said to anyone here on this thread before, but I have talked to audiophiles about the red fuse since their conception into the marketplace, I also have personally spoken to Ted Deny-founder-designer of nearly all product’s there at synergistic research, as I recall, Ted told me to go slightly higher value on the fuses on the phone, his reasoning was exactly what Almarg posted, I never had a reason to divulge this information before, everyone was enjoying their products without no remorse till now, I will also add that most audiophile’s likely can not get Ted Deny on the phone, I was very fortunate to do so, the entire reason I spoke to Ted was reported fuses blowing a couple years back, so I’ve known about this for quite awhile. |
Lowrider57, I'm not sure which type was blowing, fast or slow, I highly recommend going .1, .2, .3, no higher than .25 over stock fuse value, , these slightly higher values are in my opinion within range of protecting the given equipment that the fuses reside within, most anomalies that could happen will be far greater than these slightly higher fuse values, so, in general, your equipment investment's will be fully protected in my opinion.
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Your welcome Lowrider57, electroslacker, great post, you gave me a detailed explanation as to why I have the large 1-amp fast blow ×4 fuses in my krell 700cx, you said-If the fuse is in series with a transistorised power supply’s pass transistor, then it needs to be a very fast blow., however, I’m still going to go with .2 .3 .25 higher, lol! , I would be like a zombie around the house if my fuses blew up, in the world of high end audio, $520.00 is not a lot of money, but fuses, mmm, yes it is! , you should have heard Ray Muchler’s-the service manager voice change in tone their at krell when I told him the cost of the fuses on the phone, let’s just say he thought I was crazy, but hey, what’s new? , most people believe all audiophiles are. |
Almarg, if you are around? , this question is directed to you, I studied the offering's of values of the sr-black's fuses for my krell 700cx amplifier that takes 1- amp fast blow fuses × four of them, I really do not want to use the 1-amp value for reasons of possible blowing $520.00 up in my face, the next value is 1.6 , of course my fuse requirement is the big fuses, not the smaller one's, what is your assessment of useing the 1.6 value in place of the 1-amp value? |
Gbmcleod, I read your post, one thing stood out, I could not figure out if you preferred the furutech gtx-rhodium outlet's better than the rest of the compilation of wpo’s-wall power outlet's? |
Thankyou Almarg, I value and appreciate your response, cheers. |
Hi gbmcleod, what a wonderful written post you directed to me, thankyou, I learned a lot from what you had to say, btw, furutech has just introduced a new outlet and a few more products, it is the ncf furutech gtx-rhodium outlet's, I've got first hand reports by phone from friends that this is better than the original furutech gtx-rhodium outlet, not a night and day difference, but substantial enough they all converted to useing the new outlet, the usual more natural, realism, better bass and sound staging, pretty much extended frequency response. |
I also would like to read here a head to head comparison of the audio magic beeswax fuses vs the synergistic sr-black fuses before I make a final decision, I've read that the beeswax fuse is organic and rich sounding with transparency. |
Hi gwalt, what is your assessment of impressions between the audio magic beeswax fuses vs synergistic research sr-black fuses? |
Hi gwalt, great post, thankyou, I just might get in touch with you about the beeswax fuses, sadly, I do not see any glass fuses in my Vincent cd-s7 tube/sold state hybrid digital player, however, my modified krell 700cx has 4 1-amp fast blow fuses inside of it, I suppose their may be other types of fuses other than glass? , the digital player has a furutech gtx-rhodium outlet on it with a 3ft. $5,500.00 taralab's cobalt power cord with oyaida termination's, the player sounds incredible to me for what it is, would be nice to play with fuses with it since it is direct connected to the Krell with no preamplifier. |
Hi gwalt, your impressions of the sound of the beeswax fuse sounds like the difference of good tube sound vs some solid state comparison, you said beauty and weight to the sound, what is your assessment of the sound staging differences between the sr-red's and beeswax fuses? , thankyou. |
