Synergistic Red Fuse ...
John Curl advocates this one: re-settable fuses They are starting now becoming industry standard as their prices have come down over the last year or so, they are now much cheaper than a good $2 fuse + the fuse holder, and that is a big fact to manufacturers. But there’s no voodoo inside them if you care to investigate. http://uk.farnell.com/pptc-resettable-fuses?searchRef=SearchLookAhead Cheers George |
On my HT system I have an Marantz SR6004 which has two of these resettable fuses in it. The one on the standby transformer during a power blackout blew, instead of resetting. It was a pig to replace as it’s down the bottom of the three stacked boards and I had to remove all the boards and that bottom board to solder in a new one. If it was just a fuse in a clamp holder I could have replaced it easy with long nose pliers without removing anything. How a PTC resettable fuse works http://www.fuzetec.com/upload/images/PTC%20Function_Work_Basic.PNG Cheers George |
It uses a triple layer design with 2 new proprietary componentsAnd a partridge in a pear tree. Outstanding thanks for the insight. This is all fusers need to know. All potential fusers need to remember that fuses deteriorate with age from switch on surges (as pictured), and they just need to be replaced with good quality $2 fuse of the same value, as Almarg linked to. https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg http://www.digikey.com/products/en/circuit-protection/fuses/139 Cheers George |
We get it already And future "gullible" purchasers, deserve to hear both side of the fence, not just the voodoo side, every time they are bought up to be the saviour of good audio sound. And if some here want to turn this "fuse thread" into a "music review thread" can I suggest the "Music Thread" instead of just bumping this one for the hope of more potential fuse sales. https://forum.audiogon.com/topics/music Cheers George |
Paul McGowen of PS Audio expresses his beliefs that improving fuses can lead to improved sound on his site. It’s very well just because of this, not voodoo. This is all fusers need to know. Cheers George |
Such a strong and relentless stance has been taken there’s no way one could ever concede these fuses have any redeeming qualities at all. Negative expectation bias in full glory.Only with pointing those to spend >$100 + on a fuse when the same result can be had by spending $2, because of the original possibly being an "aged" fuse. This is all fusers need to know. All potential fusers need to remember that fuses deteriorate with age from switch on surges (as pictured), and they just need to be replaced with good quality $2 fuse of the same value, as Almarg linked to. https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg http://www.digikey.com/products/en/circuit-protection/fuses/139 Cheers George |
PLEASE give it a restSorry but have to decline that request! As every time voodoo is repetitively presented about these >$100 fuses by fusers, I and hopefully others with even a small amount of technical knowledge will continue to counter it with with our views, and I believe we have the right to do so. Cheers George |
oregonpapaReally!!! this smells, if you have been "ordered" that we are to be left in the dark, then please tell the full "secret" rundown why these magic fuses work to others who are privileged, almarg ect. Let them see if it’s all smoke and mirrors. I will concede and become a believer if someone with electronic knowledge like almarg says it correct, even without knowing the "full rundown".
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Oh dear, no no no, lets not even go there
ptss. Cheers George |
fleschler67 postsHas anyone on this forum broke open an SR black fuse and analyzed what it is made of and constructed?Would be very interesting for one of the blown ones to be sent to almarg for a analysis of what’s inside, but then again SR may have insisted it be sent back to them for the refund or replacement of a bigger amperage one Cheers George |
One of my all-time favorite recordings of any work is the LP I have of Stravinsky’s Firebird Suite (as opposed to the complete ballet that is on the recording you referred to), Robert Shaw conducting the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra, on Telarc.I’ve got 4 or 5 versions, the best by far to these ears is the one, hdcd. https://referencerecordings.com/recording/stravinsky-the-rite-of-spring/ https://referencerecordings.com/recording/stravinsky-the-rite-of-spring/ Cheers George |
Finally I just installed the fuse with direction along with the flow of electricity and decided to leave it then.Hate to tell you, but AC electricity doesn’t flow, it alternates back and forward 50 or 60 time a second (50hz 60hz) depending which country your in. So the directionality of an ac mains fuses is all "expectation bias". You'd have better cred if you belived in the tooth fairy. This is all potential fusers need to know: "All potential fusers need to remember that fuses deteriorate with age from switch on surges (as pictured), and they just need to be replaced with good quality $2 fuse of the same value, as Almarg linked to. https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg http://www.digikey.com/products/en/circuit-protection/fuses/139 Cheers George |
Fuses - all fuses - have been measured to have lower resistance in one direction than the other.Please post links to proven scientific data on this, not just hearsay. Maybe old fuses that have had many switch-on cycles put through them, sag and get carbon build up, even then it’s doubtful. (see 5 different length of times same fuse, ageing over time first link) For anyone worried that your old fuses have been subjected to too many switch on/off surges. "All potential fusers need to remember that fuses deteriorate with age from switch on surges (as pictured), and they just need to be replaced with good quality $2 fuse of the same value, as Almarg linked to. https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg http://www.digikey.com/products/en/circuit-protection/fuses/139 Cheers George |
The HiFi Tuning fuse data sheets have been discussed like forever. Wake up and smell the coffee. Like I politely asked. I asked you to "post links" which you refuse the do, from factual scientific non audio related data that says AC fuses are directional. Any data supplied by the Audio company/s selling these sometimes "re-bagged" audio fuse can be dismissed as hearsay/voodoo. Cheers George |
These DCR results show nothing! and can never be heard even by you with your bat ears, they have differences in hundredth’s!!! of milliohms!!!!!!!! (.00001 of an ohm) which mean nothing, this can be the change by the hand warming the probes or the direction of the wind or humidity or the rotation of the earth, in other words it’s just VOODOOO sales speak!!!!! Show me and the members here, a change in AC resistance 1ohm or even a tenth of an ohm, then your statements about fuse direction "may" carry some cred, but even then it’s flawed as AC changes 60 x a second as for now it’s still just marketing voodoo speak. Cheers George |
IMO those numbers are so miniscule as to be:This is also laughable Thank you Al. But I’ll go with what Geoff hears as the effects of the rotational pull of the earth, or maybe himself, (rotating that is.) not to be confused with what most are thinking as you need a few to do that, then again??? Cheers George |
geoffkait Al and George, the evidence is piling up. Al and George are the poster children for the Backfire Effect Slow down Geoff, or you'll blow your pooffoo valve, it just time to do a little weeding, to check an epidemic of Voodoo. Cheers George |
A fuse that’s old and has seen many switch on cycles will have far more effect " top link", same fuse, new on the left after many cycles far right. Just put in a new quality $2 fuse as Almarg has "bottom link" to. And you’ll have what a new >$100+ fuse will give. https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg http://www.digikey.com/products/en/circuit-protection/fuses/139 Cheers George |
The answer to find a better fuse might be in some dynamic testing methodOnly "maybe" if it looks like the same one on the right after many switch on cycles and carbon build up, then just buy a new one for $2. https://i.stack.imgur.com/0uqWX.jpg Cheers George |
geoffkait5,692 posts05-26-2017 11:48pmDamage Control! Damage Control! Report to bridge! You even felt it, king of the voodoo'ists One post ever and this! Has to be blatant shilling. https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/synergistic-red-fuse/post?postid=1427691#1427691 Cheers George |
I will and No! I was answering questions and giving links to circuits so members could build their own, as that was the main aim way back in 25th May 2006 on diyAudio.com http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/analog-line-level/80194-lightspeed-attenuator-new-passive-preamp.html#post924390 BTW: his 1 and only post was removed, I wonder why??? Cheers George |
And all this means what? That Bybee is a crook? That his products are not quantum mechanical but ordinary plain resistors and whatever? That the Bybee reviews are rigged? That this Bybee stuff is nothing more than placebo effect and expectation bias? That everyone except you is delusional? That it’s group hypnosis? All of the above? You said it Geoff, not me? Just like Saun Mook and his black pucks, and reverse-able $$$$ fuses here. Pure voodoo that has no laws of electronics for any backup to claims whatsoever, just expectation bias. Cheers George |
geoffkaitOk a simple test, must be done in the next 1min a source has an output dc bocking cap of 10uf, it seeing the input impedance of the next stage of 50kohm, what is the -3db point in hz? Cheers George |
That’s right if you couldn’t do that without the need to Google then your statement "I've forgotten more electronics than you ever knew. Assuming you ever knew any" Is moot and pure voodoo. https://cortez.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/voodoomedium.jpg?w=600 If you want we can continue and I’ll throw some harder stuff at you, that you won’t find in your book of voodoo, or be able to Google, but if your worth your electronic engineering salt, as you say you are then you should be able nut it out also in under 1min. Cheers George. |
veerapaneniThat’s because you are immune to "expectation bias." Send it back for a refund. veerapaneniBecause it’s an ac fuse and it doesn’t matter, even if it were a dc fuse it still wouldn’t matter. Cheers George |
And despite being a "waste of time," you are still in this thread. 🙄 He's for the same reason as Al and others are, to give honest technical views to the gullible who may be sucked into this snake oil/voodoo. EG: picking up 3-4v of mains voltage, this is laughable, as are other improvement statements. Cheers George |
You are "assuming" that every fuse is needed for protection purposes, and that there is no difference. That makes an "ass" out of "u." No your are sunshine, as any fuse is there to stop component/s from frying up ot even exploding, which can result in fire and even death. So who’s the ass? (A typical fusers statement, please name one fuse that’s not there for protection.) Cheers George |
but have you tried a beeswax fuseEar wax fuses are even better, as they have a more humane sound to them, they don't buzz like bees-wax ones, give them a go. I promised not give the suppliers name as he doesn’t want to rushed with orders. As he can only suck enough out of his families ears for one fuse a week. So you’ll have to search for it, but keep it to yourself. Cheers George |
