Gary, sorry but really? Just like filter caps, chokes, and diodes all these power supply parts impact the resulting sound. The fuse is part of the power supply. If you doubt it, then build the exact same tube amp with common cheap electrolytic caps the the other with Clarity TC film caps. Listen to both. Yes indeed in one sense all power supply parts are indeed in the signal path.
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Sorry Gary. I see you posted a quote from another person. My mistake. I like to read Wolf's posts and find him very entertaining actually. Wolf you have this one wrong however. Sorry.
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Cleaning the fuse holder and fuse ends is a great idea. No doubt. Remember however, no matter how well you clean a lower quality fuse it will never sound as good a a top quality fuse. You can clean that Radio Shack wire and connector for hours, but it still won't sound as good as Duelund wire with Furutech connectors. This is a great thread and in the end we will all learn more. |
Teo Audio. I posted the same thing much earlier on. I did in the past use appropriate sized copper lugs in place of fuses and the sound is soooo much better. No fuse sounds the best by far. Just simply avoid them (fuses) by using high quality Heinemann on/off breakers as the power switch.
Common sense tells me that a better quality fuse will sound better than a cheaply made one as no fuse at all sounds the best. I have experimented with all four - no fuse, copper lug, standard fuse, Synergistic fuse. I have heard the differences. I ask again, why not use a high quality breaker switch? Most gear is built with an on/off switch anyway and a fuse. Eliminate the fuse and yes you still have a switch, but certainly a better overall design by eliminating the fuse.
This is can be implemented in all manner of designs to better the sound.
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George and Teo, yes the re-settable fuses are yet another example of out of the box thinking. |
A fuse is certainly a weak point or limiting portion of the power supply. Try building the whole supply with tiny thin wire the gauge of a fuse and see how she sounds. Yes an exaggerated statement. Yes it is a weak link right? Can we agree on that? Seems obvious, but perhaps I am too simple minded as I know I am amongst some pretty bright folks on this thread.
I don't buy the argument that the span of wire is too short to make a difference. It does based on actual listening results. Seems this is the exact point of which this entire thread is debating. |
I owned the Inspire Fire bottle amp and it was just average at best. Other amps can be for the same money used that are better performing. Rather plain sounding and I felt it lacked any real drive.
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Yes the power supply in my amp was not very robust and the iron was very small and light. Was the iron high quality? I don't know for sure but the ElectraPrint amp that followed it in my home weighted twice as much and sounded so much better. The EP amp put out 12 watts.
I owned a George Wright 300b and 2A3 amp that was far more memorable sonically. Ditto for several other SET amps.
His design looked solid and I am sure a better power supply and iron would reap big sonic benefits. But this would cost more! |
Agreed. Just talking about the amps for Wolf. |
I like the thread as it covers a wide range of views and opens up our minds to areas worth considering and contemplating.
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My perception is that these fuses bring something to the table over conventional fuses, and no fuses sound best. |
Barber is an artist and has her own unique style and creativity. All kinds of art and ways to communicate it in this big world. She may not be many folks cup of tea, but she is a credible and talented artist. |
Tolerance my fellow Agoners for music and artists others feel have value. I like all the artists mentioned including PB. Charles is very cordial and open minded as his comments always convey. I hope some are not saying she has no value because she is simply not their taste.
I like the the style of her recordings and like reverb and creative atmosphere at times. There is a season for many styles of music in my life. I love Sarah Vaughan as well.
i live in Nashville and while I am not particularly fond of country music, especially the new pop style stuff, I certainly respect the fact that many love it and feel the artists do add value to our culture and lives. |
Charles has shared a lot of great music that I have very much enjoyed as well as others on this and other threads. I have been listening to Carmen McRae today. I like her recording of Billie Holiday tunes as well as Book Of Ballads. I do think her voice was better in the late 50’s and 60’s, but no doubt she sang with emotion after these years.
I have also added Fingerpaintings to my favorites! |
The best is 110% subjective. What is best to you may be mediocre, at best, to another. Surely we cannot say the other’s subjective reaction to an artist or style of music is less worthy than our own? That would be, well, elitist. Correct? In the end we all have different tastes and nobody is "right". This applies to gear and wire also 😊
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God made us all unique. I respond to God through lyrics and the emotion/passion of the vocalist. From this perspective I respond to God and others though an artist like Sara Groves (Christian artist) more than Bach. One artist is not better than the other and certainly not in God's economy. Just the wrong question and thought process. |
Seems fuses,wire, and certainly politics divide more than religion 😊
Agreed this is no place to debate /discuss politics or God. Sorry I went there... |
Vibraphonist, Charles can you provide another two or three good choices. Like every recording you have suggested in the past! Tidal is a beautiful thing! Thanks so much.
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Glad you are healing up Frank and always enjoyed your likable demeanor here on the Gon! |
I think the point being made is every single piece of gear ever made is limited by the power supply. This includes everything plugged into any wall outlet in your home. That is what Jack is saying. |
Ear cups to place on your ears greatly improving the listening experience. Try cupping your hand behind your ears and listen. Oh my! Imagine if we were to make a well engineered ear appendage that is perfected for stereo listening. This is big folks.
We need to spend far more time on the ears. If not a cup of sorts, then another ear innovation device to aid in listening. Sure our gear is important. No doubt our room acoustics are important. However, most important of all is our ears. Innovation here will make a $3000 system sound like $30,000 system.
Not hearing aids as much as listening aids. This is surely the product you are testing. |
Interesting. Could it just be a matter of engineering a different device? I see this as a fruitful area. You're the right man for the job! |
$149 for the new Blue fuse. Oh my the anti-fusers will have fun with this one now. |
Happens all the time with gear and no way around it. However, this particular fuse maker is rather interesting. Is it really game changing innovation happening on a regular basis with a fuse? If so, they need to do this and deal with the risk of upset customers. This is the "cost" of ongoing innovation minded companies. If marketing hype, then it is a bit much.
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+1 Wolf
Feel bad for Tom and new Black owners. New owners.
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Good point Geoffkait. Somehow the constant change in fuse models seems different and, well, excessive. Marketing is at play and the real risk to brand new Black owners was surely discussed. I bet they work with brand new owners if the owner asks. |
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I am also fuseless. This is the way to go. Circuit breakers.
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