Synergistic New Tesla Line...Any comments?

11-19-12: Joeyboynj
I used Synergistic's upgrade (up-trade} program. Whatever it's called. I dont have money issues with Synergistic. I have always followed Ted's program and I think its plenty fair. IMO!
Joeyboynj (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

BINGO!!! Only ones with money issues complain about upgrade programs. Why not just buy what you can afford or make more money?

Not surprising since we live in an ENTITLED society. Instead of taking action to improve ones situation, just complain complain …

SR is growing with new product introductions, I can safely assume there are more than enough customers with the financial means to support/grow it.

There's a COST for enjoying/using Version 1 to the time Version 2 is released. Version 1 starts to depreciate immediately after purchase. This is true with every commodity with the exception of investments. Washing machines, toasters, computers ...

For example, once a new car is driven off the lot, it has depreciated 20 to 30%. If traded it in after 5 years with 120K miles, the dealer has to consider the over head in selling it, time in inventory, market price ... basically they have to make a PROFIT in the whole transaction. So in MOST cases, it's always better to sell it yourself.

Trade in or upgrade program are for consumers that don't want to deal with selling it themselves. Probably 99.9% of the time not financially advantageous.

Sabai, I know you are special but I hate to break this to you, companies exist to make money and not to serve you. They can ONLY exist if profitable so is a factor in every policy decisions.

Like I said, SR has been in business for a long time so I can assume the customer base supports their overall business practices. If not, SR has to change or go out of business.

Another way of looking at this is that, 2 and a half years ago, you spent $5,000 on a product that has perhaps, if you are lucky, 20% of the sonic effectiveness of the equivalent-priced product today. How do you feel about that?

My 1st desktop computer running Windows 3.1 cost $7500 and my latest laptop with everything top of the line cost $1750. It's call innovation, increased productivity and I LOVE it.

How many times can a customer afford to up-trade? How many audiophiles have pockets deep enough to play this game? Many audiophiles have to be careful with their audio dollars while others do not.

Probably 99.9% of the population has to live in some budget. If you want something bad enough, IMO, the only way is to improve your financial situation. Taking action takes MORE effort, sacrifice ... than complaining and blaming others for your short falls.

By the way, you may live in an entitled society but I do not. I live abroad -- in a third world country where there is no entitlement at all.

47% in my country welcomes you with open arms or maybe 51% now ... Hmmm!

11-22-12: Bacardi
@Sabai, I agree with your post 100%. I couldn't have said it better than that...
Bacardi (Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

Why am I NOT surprise.

I don't know anyone on Audiogon who does not "want to deal with" selling an item that will fetch them a reasonable price. The uptrade policy of SR is for those who have virtually no alternative. This is obvious. Who would take up the "offer" to purchase an item twice as expensive as the one they bought earlier if they were not already in the market for that product -- unless they had no other choice -- or had very deep pockets?

Market sets the price via supply and demand. Some auto companies try reconditioning/recertifying their used vehicles to increase the value but basically it's set by supply and demand.

Trade In is essentially paying the company selling for you so they will charge a fee. No alternative is only obvious if Ted has some inappropriate videos of you and Bacardi

Of course, your analogy is totally false. Computers are not high end audio equipment. They are not upgradeable in the way that many audio companies upgrade their equipment ...

The point is with innovation, competition, productivity ... price will drop in new releases with improve performances and functionality. This applies to most commodities whether it's audio, upgradeable, computers ...

DAC is an audio product It's basically a computer that convert a file of 1's and 0's to an analog signal. I replaced a DAC bought 4 years ago. It's 40% less expensive with improved sound and features thanks to innovation. Until this area of technology matures, we should get this type of improvement periodically.

Regarding your comment about taking "MORE effort, sacrifice", I work 365 days a year. I do not need to be lectured on working harder. Thank you.

You are very Welcome. I'm sorry and my only comment is, work smarter and NOT harder.

This is about giving audiophiles who can afford to enter the ballpark more choices. The companies that do so are to be highly commended ...

Whether a product is over priced or good value is up to the individual purchasing the product to decide and not you.

Perfect example is Joeyboynj, SR upgrade policy works for him, enjoys the new products and probably finds them good value. Since it's his money and system, why should anyone care? It's a win win for both he and SR.

It should be the goal but a company can never satisfied 100% of their customers. As long as the majority of their TARGETED customers are satisfied, they will succeed. Like I said, SR has been in business for many years so I can assume they are doing most things right. Have you ever considered SR is NOT TARGETING for your business?

And no hard feelings, I enjoy reading your very special posts.

Lucky you, your customer from HELL. Reminds me of Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction ... a illogical cat with 9 lives kept resurfacing.