Synergistic calls out Audioholics


Curious to see what Gene does...

https://youtu.be/PKLuLfj2iC4


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+1 @oregonpapa 
Hence is the problem with gross generalizations and the internet...
Even if somebody like Gene "proves" the SR stuff makes no measurable difference, cannot be selected in blind listening tests, and costs a fraction of the selling price to build, how does that "prove" it is snake oil - as long as the purchasers are happy with their purchases.  I don't care whether Ted Denny drives a Ferrari, I didn't help pay for it.
@prof  
I did not make the diamond analogy, you did.  A diamond has intrinsic value as a gemstone, so if somebody sold a rock as a diamond that is clearly fraud and a crime.  Audiophile cables and fuses are sold to improve the sound of the Audiophile's system.  These items are in fact cables and fuses so there is no fraud wrt what they are.  The value is dependent on what the listener hears....i.e., what makes them happy. 

As you say, "snake oil is a euphemism for deceptive marketing."  That opens a huge door covering many products and industries.  However, a fuse is still a fuse and a cable still a cable.    Even if the SR stuff makes no measurable difference, cannot be selected in blind listening tests, and costs a fraction of the selling price to build, - if the buyer/user perceives the advertised level of improvement then so what?  Does that validate the marketing?  Maybe not, who knows?

Would I pay their prices for cables or fuses - no way.  Do I believe the value to me in sonic improvements to my system would justify the prices - not in my world.  Do I believe in the seemingly weird science and technology they use to justify the performance of the tweaky products they sell - nope.  However, I do not begrudge those who do believe in the value and want to spend the money. 

On the other side of the coin, I also appreciate the folks like Gene who present opposing viewpoints and especially when they make technical arguments supported with measurements.  Amir Majidimehr over at Audio Science Review provides measurements and has a way of reporting facts as he believes them to be, without judging the product or manufacturer.  That is the great thing about free speech and free enterprise, we do our research and vote with our wallets - nobody can make me pay for Ted's Ferrari.  
@prof 
Unless you have proof of fraud, you are left with overstated marketing hype.  How are you going to prove anything when there are so many happy customers and impressed professional reviewers?  Why even argue about it?  Let them hear what they hear, believe what they believe, and be happy with their cables and tweaks.  If you don't believe the SR claims, don't buy the products.  Why have a dog in the fight?
@georgehifi 
Interesting stuff.  To your point - culture comes from the top.  Four reviews from former workers with interesting and somewhat similar quotes.  However, I have found you do need to take indeed and glassdoor stuff with a grain of salt since often only the people with an axe to grind take the time to post.