Synergestic Black Fuse vs Audio Magic BeesWax


Like to ask if any Audiogon Members compared the Synergistic Black Fuse Vs The Audio Magic BeesWax ( top of line). Let me know what differences in sound quality, what equipment was it in, and how does it compare between the two fuse. Current all my equipment has The Black fuses; I am just curious WTF Audio Magic is So Expensive! Is it worth a big jump with the Audio Magic??
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Showing 18 responses by geoffkait

Well, let’s see. There’s Johnny. And Jim. And Roger. There’s Sally, Bruce and Molly and Alton. There’s Agnes, Flo, Bonnie and Herb. Make that two Herbs. There’s also Henrietta, Reggie, Neil and Boo Boo. Alex, Frank, Drew, Clayton, Harvey, Louise and Dave. I forget the rest.
Just so we know what Appeal to Authority means, you know, since it comes up so much.

An argument from authority (argumentum ab auctoritate), also called an appeal to authority, or argumentum ad verecundiam, is a form of defeasible[1] argument in which a claimed authority’s support is used as evidence for an argument’s conclusion. It is well known as a fallacy, though some consider that it is used in a cogent form when all sides of a discussion agree on the reliability of the authority in the given context.[2][3] Other authors consider it a fallacy to cite an authority on the discussed topic as the primary means of supporting an argument.[4]

The claim 90,000 aftermarket fuses have been sold is not an Appeal to Authority. It’s actually evidence of the great success of the fuses, which lends credence to the idea that they probably work as advertised. Most likely audiophile fuse companies would have been run out of town on a rail a long time ago had their products failed to deliver. On the other hand, we’ve heard from some people who claim they didn’t get the results everybody else did. However, since there are only a few of them, it’s probably best to throw them out like any other outliers. We already know for any audiophile thingamabob there will always be a few who don’t get good results. That’s kind of how the cookie 🍪 crumbles.

In the real world there’s such a thing as third party (independent) verification and validation. There is no onus on any person or company making any claim. Anyone is free to promote or market or demonstrate his product be noone is required to prove any aspect of the product himself. In this hobby there are reviewers perform, ideally, third party testing and verification. In the real world roads don’t stop at the edge of town. Roads keep going.
elizabeth
90.000. Where did THAT number pop up from? 🥧 🥧 🥧
If you are claiming of 90,000 fuses in use in audio equipment, at least 4,500 have had aftermarket fuses tried.. Maybe.. maybe...

>>>>>What on earth are you going on about? This was all covered many times. Try to pay attention.
Actually, it’s empirical evidence. It’s a fundamental piece of the scientific method pie 🥧. OK, let’s suppose for the sake of argument it is anecdotal evidence. It would then be 90,000 anecdotal reports against, what, 3 who claim it can’t possibly work or claim it didn’t work for them. Who ya gonna believe? 
Uh, oh, looks like I’ve been called out by the Bloviator-in-Chief. Actually, I'm not demanding proof, I'm asking for evidence. Any evidence. Follow?
There has never been an amplifier or anything else damaged by an audiophile fuse. When they blow prematurely they actually prevent any damage. So would all the paranoid schizophrenics please put a sock 🧦 in it. And thanks for mentioning wire directionality, another thing the paranoid schizophrenics are way behind the power curve on. This is all probably a simple case of circuit compulsion obsession and self admiration. Pass Labs has a policy. Well, la dee da! Who cares?
As I’ve oft noted amplifier manufacturers, for whatever reason, appear to be far behind the power curve. Gee, everyone and his brother uses aftermarket fuses. I bet Mr. Pass is behind the power curve for wire directionality and power cords, too. You’d have to be set in your ways not to at least explore the possibilities. But he’s probably a nice guy. Do amp designers dream of their own electrical circuits? 😳
Love the chip! Are they still available anywhere? I need some for my headphones.
shadorne
It depends on your definition of high level - does it mean high fidelity (in which case a mere fuse should not affect the audio) or does high level mean an expensive boutique custom item that was built and tuned by ear to sound great but without an emphasis on low distortion and elimination of extraneous factors (like a mere fuse) affecting the sound quality.

>>>>That’s not logical, Captain. We already know that distortion measurements can be deceiving. We know for example that many Tube amplifiers with say, 0.05% Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) sound MUCH BETTER than many Solid State amps with vanishingly low THD of say, 0.001%. AND some tube amps sound better than other tube amps that have lower THD. And so forth. So, the logical conclusion here is that - all things being equal - distortion is relatively meaningless. Good sound is definitely not DEFINED by very low distortion. As for me I’ll take good sound over low distortion any day. 😬

Huh? Change fuses every 6 months? That don’t make sense, partner. Heck, that’s hardly nuff time for the Graphene to break. 🤠
Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead! 🛥 Don’t let the mossbacks, backsliders and knuckledraggers drag you down. There is a perfectly good reason why low energy electrons can’t get to the next higher electron shell. It was a valid question in the OP, don’t let them hijack the thread. 
Fuses have 30 day trial period. Problem solved. Besides, whose word would you take? 😁