Sweetest sounding 12AU7?


I have a Rogue 66 Magnum that came with Radiotechnique tubes.I have had these before in my old 99 phonostage along with some Telefunken 12AX7's
The old 99 phonostage sounded very good with this combination.
In the 66 linestage the R.T.'s sound somewhat bright.Im not sure how many hours are on them but I know they are fairly new.
Im wondering what a good 12AU7 would be for the 66.
I also have a pair of Sylvania's that came with the 66 but havent listened to them.I would guess they arent that great.
Any leads for a sweet and warm 12AU7?
Anyone have experience with Tungsram?
david99

Showing 2 responses by dekay

David:

Sweet/warm 12au7 types in my preamp and as an input tube in one of my power amps are:

RCA/Sylvania/GE USA tubes from the 50's/60's (THIS DOES NOT include RCA "clear top side getter" tubes, which I do not consider to be sweet/warm). I also use 5814a's, same brands/vintages as above.

Never used a Euro 12au7 type that I consider sweet/warm with the exception of a handfull of Mullard 12au7 types (have most common Euro Telefunken/Amperex/Siemens versions).

However, you might go broke trying to find a decent warm/sweet Mullard pair, IMO, as their sound/quality for this particular tube type is all over the map (different versions/vintages/productions).

The good news is that the USA versions I mention are common/cheap.

If your Sylvania's have yellow print, then they might be just the ticket (later versions have green print).

Not knocking the Euro types (just don't find them warm) as I do use them when running a Grado phono cartridge as an offset.

Whatever you do don't waste your money on the mid 80's Mullard military 12au7 versions which have flooded the market (the leanest/meanest 12au7 type that I've experienced).
Hi David:

I've never tried the later Sylvania's (Green). I have used Green 6922/6dj8's which were pretty good though (they were specialy screened/selected).

You might ask Rogue about using 5814, 6189 and possibly 5963 tubes. The 5963 tolerates less plate voltage than a 12au7, so it's not a direct sub in all circuits.

I'm also curious about Tungstram Ecc82's, but stopped buying tubes quite some time ago. They used to be listed @ ATSI Tube.

Maybe try a "Rogue 12au7" search @ AA? I prefer to research tubes as they are used in my paricular gear.