SVS Subwoofer Isolation feet. Will I lose bass?


Most of what I see about subwoofer isolation has to do with minimizing rattles or bothering the neighbors.  But what about a sealed subwoofer on a concrete slab?  Would these dampeners not "dampen" the bass as well?

My setup...  Dual SVS SB16s on a concrete slab.  I don't have a rattle problem and the room is 20ft tall so I can't afford to "lose" bass because of my shakey rubbery feet.  

I've read and seen many great things about these but I have a hunch it would hurt a sealed sub on a slab more than help.

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Showing 8 responses by mahgister

After listening to this very interesting Townshend video....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZxi1oZfvDA



I think I will go if I want to stay with homemade solution with my sandwiches of different materials: quartz feet+granite plate+sorbothane+granite plate+corkplate+bamboo plate, but I will add a quartz sand bed in a bamboo box under the speakers and on top of this sandwich....I will use a mix of quartz sand with 2 different size for the sand peebles...


I cannot design a "damped" system of springs adequately myself to controls resonance....The explanation why is in the video...The price to afford them exceed my purse....And it is more fun to recreate, invent, and experiment ourselves....


I think the quartz bed will controls some resonance too....Perhaps not like a damped springs system but surely approximating it, quartz sand+small peebles will dissipate vibrations resulting from resonance in heat and it is more simple to make for me....

Only with my loaded(70 pounds on each one) speakers and the sandwich I had already now give me good results....The quartz bed will help with resonance better than only the sandwich....




My speakers actually were loaded with 70 pounds on each, and this was good... I will try someday juste the springs compared to the speakers loaded with weigh on my sandwiches....The weigh gives some damping, and the different densities materials I use give some coupling-decoupling but also some tuning.... I will compare someday with the springs with a bed of quartz....
I must wait to sell my house but I cannot wait to experiment with my speakers and add to my sandwich of 5 different materials under them 4 springs and directly under the speakers a bed of quartz sand/ small peebles. The sandwich between them....

I trust the springs to isolate from external vibrations, and for the quartz bed to manage gently internal resonance with the sandwiche… :)


 
In a word the audio system, sub-woofer included, when music play, are not a mass of separated parts no more; they are ONE totally integrated and linked system, mechanically, electrically and acoustically in your room...All parts and field interacted and participated in the recreation of the musical sound in your ears... And sometimes your brain will observed an improvement, coming from one of these 3 dimensions and improving simultaneously the dimension of perception linked also to an another one of the 3 and sometimes even the 2 others....

This is my experience....Someone more knowledgeable will explain better the details...It is very easy to verify with simple modifications...
you could have correctly isolated your entire system for what you paid for your homemade devices
The amount I paid for ALL my homemade solutions was 2/3 of the amount I will pay for these isolations pods...

But I also invest to controls my electrical grid and the acoustical field of my room …. All that for 2/3 of this money....


The most costly device I bought cost me 50 dollars (usb S.G. from hong Kong) after that shungite etc


Then for a fraction of the price I develop intervention in all 3 embeddings controlled fields...Then even if my mechanical isolation are not perfect they work great...I will recreate my system better in a year or 2 in an another house...( with spring under quartz bed for the speakers)


The acoustical field mods. are the more impactful of the 3 set of solutions for the embeddings.... :)
The funny thing is if you weren’t so “cheap minded” you could have correctly isolated your entire system for what you paid for your homemade devices. Do you see the humor? 😀
Another free judgement...

I know perfectly well that using springs will be better...( I am not an idiot 7 days on 7)

I wait for my house sale to recreate my system....it is not possible now with my actual desk...And my actual S.Q. is bearable to say the least...

And you must know that being creative is not synonymus with cheap minded...


You begin to resemble someone I know... :)

" Cheap? you said....What do you want to sell me?" Groucho Marx


What is comical is my post was an acknowledgement of your own post.... Did you miss an enemy?


But I know how you like to argue....Myself too, but only when people are of good faith or humorous.... You are at least one of these 2, times to times... :)

Sorry to disappoint but unless you are isolation with spring type devices you’re not blocking seismic vibrations.
Nothing to be sorry...


If you would have read my post you would have read the word: imperfect, not on par, a before taste, and also my wish to BUY this isolation pod...

I only wanted to gives my impression about the necessity to controls vibrations....

This is very important that’s all...


But I know how you like to own a last word.... then be glad....:)

To your discharge I learn only one thing in my life: it is how to read....I am a man of no gift except that one...And to know how to read implicate to search for the true INTENT of the writer, not only the translation of letters in sound....My intention was to confirm what I learn from this video ...

" You are one neuron short for winning this synapse argument tough" Groucho Marx
Marvellous convincing video....I have a small before taste with my "imperfect" but effective method to couple- decouple homemade...On the bass and imaging results are speaking... My method of coupling-decoupling is not on par with these Townshend isolation pod but cost me 100 bucks compared to 1700 bucks... :)


Having the money I will buy one for refining results with non perceptible vibrations....Even coupling-decoupling homemade methods gives some results... I use sandwiched between each other 5 different properties materials...Imperfect yes, good yes....

In my experience these seismic vibrations(under perceptible level) greatly affect the sound like ANYTHING linked to the electrical grid or acoustical field of the room way more than an upgrade of gear in most cases...


Most people are unable to imagine these S.Q. amazing transformation when we work on the controlling aspects of these embeddings, be it mechanical like in the Townshend example, or electrical, or acoustical; called all that "snake oil or placebos", like men of the past were calling "gods" strange visitors from the sky...Man need to understand and the simple way is to give a name: god or placebos,or snake oil etc... It is way more simple to name it than to try it with experiment...    :)


This is one of the thing underestimated by us all....