Sumptuous, lush, rich, liquid golden midrange amp?


I am looking to approximate the sound of the Jadis 88Sig in a tube amp less than $5K used, to mate with an Aesthetix Calypso, VPI TNT jnr, Wright WWP 200 phono preamp, Marantz SA 11 S1/APL Denon 3910 (tubed) and Tyler D10 speakers, 8 ohms, 91 db sensitivity. Neutrality, accuracy be damned - just lush wide soundstage, musical as it gets. Any??????I expect flames, but also some gems:)
springbok10

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Thor PA 30 mono's. With their stock tubes they are a luscious set of amps... though I heard them with the Thor TA 1000 preamp too. 30 watts of wonderful. I listened at normal levels in a mid sized room on VR4 JRs.

All your accolades apply to these little donuts.

I'd like to find the same thing in some 60-80wpc or hogher amps.

Good luck

Spring...

RE wpc
No. simply more vol. for my room + speakers.

If the later PA 30s (mk ii) are alike the MK II line stage preamp, there going to be a bit faster, quicker. I thought however only the linestage got speeded up.

The 30s are set apart from the 60s & 120s he made, as the 30s were aimed directly at the SET folks who needed more ooomph, and to drive a greater range of squeakers.

Actually two things hold me back from the PA 30s... primarily it's just biasing them. For myself, it would be a dicey prospect as I'd not be able to see the onboard meteres... like everybody else.

Secondarily I wonder about the imp curve of my drivers and room size enough to give me pause.

The first scenario here though, sets them off my personal list... otherwise I'd probably give them a try, as my next speakers will be a bit more eff with an easier load still. Whenever that happens... lol.

But the 30s are mesmerizing amps to be sure!

The caveat here I suspect with what ever amp the OP winds up with fed by his current pre, amps are not 100% of the story in that lush, full, wet sound... the pre plays a substantial part too, as do the speakers.

Jtimothya

I don't think so. Well, not entirely.

The EL 34s used in the thor monos are current production tubes. No Mullards, Brymars, etc. JJ’s? EH’s?

That's the thing on those particular amps. None of the other Thor mono amps sounded anything like those 30's, on purpose.

The chassis, t-former, caps & resistors, Biasing Using the 34s as Triodes instead of as Pentodes too likely helped ??

It's definitely more than just the tubes. Some of that 'magic' or 'voiceing' is in the line stage for sure, and in his bigger amps, but not nearly as much. it would also seem to me even those higher watt amps could provide more gold in the tones with older NOS EL 34s… though they’d not duplicate the PA 30s voice 100%.

Uru975

The 20/20s are what, 94db & 4 ohms? Probably dropping down some too on the imp?

Could they push enough vol so a regular conversation could not be had when they were turned up, and they didn’t need to get near max vol either - Correct?

If so, I’m impressed.