Suggestions for integrated amps for B&W CM10


I recently bought the Bowers and Wilkins CM10 speakers, currently paired with Peachtree Audio Nova 125. Although, the clarity and details are phenomenal, I can't help but notice two shortcomings:

1. At times, things get a bit too bright for my taste -- also, I would prefer a bit more warmth
2. It doesn't seem that the Nova has enough authority to drive the bass drivers that well. I just feel that I can get more from these speakers on the lower end without adding a separate sub.

Now, I do realize that the speakers are fairly new with less than 30 hours on them, so maybe things will get better after the break in period. And I also realize that the placement and the room characteristics are not ideal.

But having said that, I would be interested in suggestions for what other integrated amps (or even separates if affordable) go well with the CM10s and provide a bit more warmth and better base. Budget is under$2500, new or used.
arafiq

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Thanks for the sound advice everyone. I see that pairing my Class D Peachtree with the CM10s is probably not the ideal setup. I will definitely look for Parasound integrated ... need to find a dealer in the Dallas area.

The sales rep at the Best Buy Magnolia Design Center is pushing the Rotel gear (either integrated or separates), saying that usually the synergy between Rotel and B&W is quite good. Rotel separates are coming out to be around $2700 as well.

What do you guys think of Rotel when compared to Parasound?
Paraneer, I would love to buy a Parasound integrated. Best Buy is currently offering a 36-month-no-interest plan on anything above 1500. Now, since I've already sunk in quite a bit of change on the CM10s (paid cash), the no interest financing deal is looking quite good. But that means I have to buy whatever (mostly Rotel or Arcam) that Magnolia carries.

The other option is to just live with the Peachtree for sometime and buy the Parasound when funds are available to justify another cash purchase. But that means waiting for at least one year.
Mesch - I definitely care about the DAC, and it seems they're using one of the best in the business in the parasound halo. So definitely a big plus for me.

By the way, there's an ad on craigslist for parasound:
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ele/5272028814.html

What do you guys think of this combo? Do you think the asking price is fair?
Samac, thanks for your response. I actually looked at the FMJ while at Magnolia a few weeks ago. For some reason, I just didn't feel that it had enough to drive the bass drivers on the CM10s. I might be wrong though. Other than that, I agree that it's a very sweet sounding piece.

And I know that not all watts are created equal, but if I'm buying something else, I want to make sure it has at least more power than my current Peachtree (@125 w).
Paraneer, I really appreciate your advice. I think I'm going to pick up the A23 tomorrow. Next I'm thinking about selling the Peachtree Nova 125 to buy the P5. Come to think of it, I should probably also unload the LSA-1 Signature speakers that haven't seen much use in the last year or so.
Paraneer, agreed. I would prefer a pre-amp with a built-in DAC, so actually the P5 looks like a better deal.
Now, my main concern is if the A23 would provide the kind of extended bass that's currently missing from the Peachtree. I don't know if the difference between the two amps will be considerable. My thinking is if I'm upgrading then get something which is more future proof - more wattage, current, etc than the A23. Perhaps, I should wait out for a A21 used deal?
BTW, I also saw the HCA 1500A on sale on eBayhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Parasound-HCA-1500A-High-Current-Amplifier/131647945256?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D34225%26meid%3D42fe23b170174b6dbe2812b478aba7cc%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D9%26rkt%3D17%26sd%3D351574897452

Need some advice on whether to go with the older/discontinued model with twice the wattage, or stay with the relatively newer A23.
Thanks for the suggestions. So I had quite an adventure this weekend. The salesman at the Magnolia Design Center insisted that I take the Rotel separates (amp: RB-1582; preamp: RC-1570) home and at least give them a listen, so I took them home and set them up.

So the first thing that struck me was how 'warm' the sound was. I immediately started missing my Peachtree, actually I regained a lot of respect for the Nova. While the Rotel combo had more heft and definitely a wider soundstage, I just felt that the clarity and details were not there. Perhaps, I'm not used to the warm sound of Rotel. Definitely, not my cup of tea. Also, for digital music, I feel the DAC in the Peachtree far surpasses the Rotel preamp - by a mile.

At this point, I have decided to return the Rotel separates back to Mangolia and pickup the used Parasound Halo A23 from a local buyer. I will see if I can use the Peachtree as a DAC and pre-amp for the time being. And when funds permit, buy a new or used P5.

Thanks for all the wonderful advice.