Subwoofer's Front Firing vs. Down Firing


What are the benefits of a front-firing sub-woofer (if any) vs. a down-firing? Some have suggested that a front-firing sub may be easier and more flexible in it's room placement. Has this been your experience?
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It is a person who developes the pre amps. We talked about cables. At shows they used often cables which give a wide and deep stage. But with Pass Labs you need other properties. You need a more intimate individuel focus.

Even big brands in cables they did not test or use. Those are the ones which give a much better endresult compared to the ones they use. We had email contact about this issue.

Nelson makes the best poweramps in the world in my personal opnion. For me he is God in amps.

Read more precise before you say stuppid things!!
The main advantage of a downfiring is you get a lower freq. in your room. We Always call them party subwoofers. They can give a lot of fun. But....are they accurate? Not really!

Front firing is much more accurate and also realistic. When the subwoofer is sealed the timing is faster. Speed is the key to the best integration for a subwoofer.

The best subwoofers are Always sealed and have frontfiring.
With these kind of subwoofers I can create what I call stealth integration. I only can achieve this with Audyssey Pro. Then you have a full integration witht the subwoofer.
The energy is comming from were it is on the recording.
Dear Duke,

I understand your story, but.....with the use of Audyssey Pro ( my way which it a lot different compared to the Audyssey way) I can play so much louder than without. Even with the most dynamic music I do not have the problems I had in the past without it. It feels like freedom because the limitations are almost gone.

Time changes and technique as well. I have proven that I have created a much higher level of integration. A few surround specialists has been here to listen to it. They were amazed that for the first time that what I call Stealth integration is possible. One surround specialist said; You have gold in your hands.

I use my subwoofer from 16 hz till 140 hz. The energy is so much better placed than most people can imagine. It is exactly comming from were it is, and it is more one with the speakers.

When I do test at clients there home without Audyssey Pro they all fail. They also have acoustic limitations. The integration is of a much lower level.

Using Audyssey Pro, Purist Audio powercables, New Wild Dog subwoofercable from Audioquest sets a subwoofer to a new level of integration!

The level of integration is the key to succes in integration!
I sold in the past many many REL subwoofers. The material of my PLW-15 is made from ceramics. This is a lot lighter compared to the material REL is using. This makes a big difference in response. I have told this a few times.

It is very easy to understand when you hear the difference in response. Subwoofers can reach a much higher level for integration when the material is lighter.

Timing is the key for succes regarding integration!!
Audio is a lot more than only building it. Even at many shows often a subwoofer does not have a belanced sound as it should have. Even when the manufacturers are there at the show.

Often at shows they tell a nice technical story ( at their own frequency), but the demo is not even convincing. Hearing is believing.

They should tell about their products on the same frequency customers think about audio.

What do I hear....this is what counts!!

The people who make things often use a few brands to test. I have often asked brands like Pass Labs, Nordost and Audioquest people about their knowledge in other products of competitors. And different sources and amps they use with their own products.

I was often surprised that they knew less than I thought.

That is why I said a few times; there need to be more communication. The endresults in sound needs to get to a higher level. They need to work more togheter!!
Audio is about the best sound quality. For subwoofer it is the same story. What gives the best endresults.

Many of my clients in the past with Rel subwoofers bought a granite plate for their subwoofer. It makes a big difference. But still a faster response gives more freedom in use.

After I tested the subwoofer to higher freq. response ( 120-140hz) I got an even better endresult. I got this information from a client. He read an article about Audyssey.

To use a subwoofer this high only can be used when you have a subwoofer with a fast response.

Many slower subwoofers you cannot use that far. You will loose the authority.The endresults are lower.

The proof is what you hear.
Against Nordost? This is a product what has the gutts to be different. It is still a nice product. I owned it and I sold it a lot. Why I would be against it.

I prefer brands which are more complete in my opinion. That does not make it a bad product. It is a good products with is different. I like those brands who are different!!