Straight tonearms without offset angle


In the October issue of Stereiphile, there was an article on a tonearm that had no offset angle and therefore had no skating force. The disadvantage of this is at the beginning and end of the record, the tracking angle error was much greater than what you get with an offset angle. For conventional tonearms that have an offset, and require anti-skating, which can never be perfect, the typical tracking error has a supremum of about 2 degrees, and according to online Lofgren calculators, this imposes a second-order harmonic distortion less than 2%. 

I have a single-ended triode amplifier consisting of vintage globe 45 triodes transformer coupled to 833A SETs which drives Magnepans. Such SETs typically have second-order harmonic distortion as high as 10% which does not hurt the sound. A straight tonearm without an offset would have a maximum, or supremum tracking error of just under 10 degrees. If this causes a second-order harmonic distortion of less than 10%, would not this be irrelevant in a SET system? Is there any way of calculating this, or has this ever been studied? 

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Yamaha also have a Vintage Design, as well as Stax and Micro Seiki also experimented with similar designs, but not zero offset that are now Vintage Models.

Yamaha also have a modern design for the Tonearm used with the GT 5000 Table, this arm is wired with PC Triple C. I am an advocate of this wire type, and also with experiences of having been demo’d a Tonearm with this wire type, used as a continuous wire from Cart’ Pins to Phono’ Input. Using such a Wire, as a Wands Signal Path is a very wise choice.

Truglider is another Brand producing Zero Offset designs.  

Stax and Micro Seiki both produced Straight Arms, but not Zero Offset .

When looking at the Models it does seem a Zero Offset can be created, a little thought for a Headshells Cart' Mounting Mounting would be the ideal place to modify.

Both Stax and Micro Seiki has a removable Headshell of the Flag on a Flagpole Type.

There are simplistic alternative methods to attach a removable Headshell to the Wand that are a substantial improvement. The Zero Offset seems to make this as a option even easier to achieve.

As made known in other Threads, I am at some point in the future to be demonstrated a friends TA Design as a Underhung Geometry, with them producing a alternate Headshell for their TA.    

https://www.monoandstereo.com/zero-offset-full-straight-tonearm-project/

https://www.hifispeaker.wiki/item/micro-seiki-cf-1

There are Headshell designs in the following link that will attach to the Wand, these designs enable a rigidity not usually achievable from a Bayonet attachment, the ones in the link are much closer to a formed Headshell on the Wand

@mijostyn would make easy work of producing one of these alternate removable Headshells if the OD of the Wand is supplied. There will also be a need for getting over any confliction held with Underhung Geometry cheeky

http://www.schiller-phono.de/de/tonarm-diy

 

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There has been the "The Abolition of Capital Punishment",

I won't be rehabilitating my Selection of Capitals to be used for Words within a written Sentence. 

It really doesn't matter what the naysayers are saying nay to. There forte is remaining where they are and professing what they have. 

The better types, to take a lead from, are those who moved on to the Viv from the tools naysayers are advocates of, or those who get their most satisfying experience using Underhung Tools and Over hung Tools in conjunction, where the differences are seen to be the bonus.

Each to their own on such matters, unless one likes to get the zGloves On. 

 

@reimarc My own experiencing of changing to a new Tonearm has similarities to your own.

I was first introduced to the TA at a forum event, where during a range of different equipment being demo'd, much of what was individuals designs for an Idler Drive, I heard a demo' that caught my attention.

At a later date, I was invited to the individuals home that had demo'd the set up that was certainly very well thought off and for me indelible as an experience.

I was introduced to the design that was selected to be used and the importance of particular materials being used as exchange materials, and the very tight tolerances able to be machined for the interfaces.

Further comparison demo's were done between TA's, with the result being I bought into this design for a TA, and have not felt to date a change is needed, even when being involved with a few changes that have been produced for the TA since my becoming an owner.