Agriculturist, the best thing to do is try one on your turntable and trust your ears. |
Agriculturist, I can see this on a spring suspended turntable, but at THE Show I saw it demonstrated on a broad range of turntables with great benefit. Some of these were spring suspension tables. I have an extra that I will sell. |
Jyoungpark, I have heard the StillPoint clamp audition on and off a large range of turntables at various shows one time while touring with Paul Wakeen. I have yet to hear a turntable that wasn't benefited. Personally, I have used it on my Bergmann SIndre tt with great benefit, although the screw on clamp that comes with it is quite good.
I know some who are using multiples of it on component and speaker tops for vibration absorption. I have tried it to some degree in such an application with little benefit, but I should say that all of my equipment is one StillPoints Racks or Component stands. Maybe there is little left to absorb. |
Benjie, I think I heard the Monza compared with the StillPoint LPN at CES. I certainly looked like it. It was no contest and they used the LPN the rest of the show. I certainly have never tried one, however. |
Catastrofe, I presume the new platter was a substantial improvement. Copper and gunmetal; sounds interesting.
I once had a Finial Audio solid copper string driven tt. I weighed 285 pounds! At that time it cost me about $11,000. Now, with the price of copper, I can just imagine.
The weight was my problem. I couldn't trust most racks that were available then. |
Mattheus, I guess I don't know how to send a private message.
I never used the spikes that came with the Bergman. I used a StillPoint Component Stand and first used SP Ultra SSs and later Ultra Five on the Component stand under the Bergman. I also used their LPI record weight. |
Franks, I am presently assessing the benefits of Hitachi FineMet beads on pigtails that you can use on your power cords. FineMet is much like ferrite beads but much more effective perhaps because of its bandwidth. For whatever reason, these give a dramatic improvement. I'm going to use them in an Exemplar modified Oppo 105. I am also seeing it a Monarchy regenerator driving a Nantais modified Lenco L78 and set to 110 volts, which was the US voltage at the time when Lenco was popular, sounds better. It clearly does.
In short, I am buried in tweak trials. There is magic to be found in music reproduction, but it is not easy to find it. Vibrations are the principle culprit. |
Geoffkait, you can see the Hitachi FineMet webpage easily, but buying them is hit or miss now. I think they are basically made for the military. But you can find them on Ebay occasionally.
There is the promise soon of access to some of the many sizes through a Japanese company. Right now, this company is focusing on manufacturers. I now have pigtails using two sizes for use with powercords. One has only a 1.7 mm inside diameter and the other is about 5/8 inch. The gauge of wire that can be used with the small ones means these power cords probably shouldn't be used on amplifiers. |
Radioheadokplayer, I don't think there is a sonic difference, but I would check with Stillpoints and ask. |
Radioheadokplayer, had I know you had a Lenco, I would have known that as that is what I have also. |
Dgarretson, what one has with the Stillpoint technology is ceramic balls sitting on three same size ceramic balls that are spread just far enough apart to not allow the one on top falling through. This makes the vector of vertical vibrations almost entirely horizontal but this is restrained by a stainless ring, meaning it is turned into heat. |
I think that the Dalby D7 Vinyl Stabiliser is the best for a table with no spring isolation. In my experience The Stillpoints LPI is quite different and works on a broader range of turntables.
I don't think much else can be said. Try it and buy it if you like it, but given the expense of the Dalby, you better like it a lot. I do! |
Dover, you are an example of what wrong with audio critiquing today. There is little science pertaining to audio design. You state that There is little coupling of the record to the platter. This would suggest that you have some reason to believe that a record that is permanently bound to the platter. Is there some science that would suggest this is true? I think not. I compared the screw down system on the Bergman Sindre versus the Dably. The Dalby blew the screw down away. Incidentally, although I think rim weighting the record is helpful, it is a pain in the a--.
In the absence of any real scientific research, I think listening is ones only recourse. I have compared the Dalby against many other record weights. The Stillpoints is the second best in my opinion and is certainly a best buy. |
Bill_k, yes, isn't that ridiculous? It does use expensive materials and does sound very good. It is widely acclaimed. I bought mine used. |
Agriculturist, try a SP Ultra Five on your amp. |
Agriculturist, the Ultra Sixs make no sense on top a component as one side has five of the "technology" and the other side one.
The only addition that the Five offers over the LPI is greater weight. The heavier weight was evident, but sometimes it was good and some times not. UMMV. |
Agriculturist, it makes a big difference but it tarnishes something. Try it. |
Agriculturist, basically it robbed the music of pace (or toetapping) and dynamics |
Agriculturist, I suspect that you are right. I have many of Lloyd Walkers lead centered brass ring pucks and could have tried this, but alas I lost interest. I once made power cords out of two, four and eight lengths of speaker wires. The greater the number the better the sound.
One can do countless experiments. |