"not a fan of gold in audio equipment. Looks overstated and fake"
You do realize that brass's gold color results from its ingredients, right? |
Looks like I'm the next in line to try out Star Sound products under my speakers. Had a nice followup conversation with Robert this week, after I emailed an inquiry about Sistrum Apprentice stands to use under my Revel Salon 2s.
I did state some stability concerns (the Salon 2s are heavy, about 180 lbs. apiece, but also have a tall, narrow profile - I don't think the grandchildren could take them out, but I wasn't so sure about my German Shepherds...). In response, Robert suggested I wait a couple months for the stands until their new Apprentice XL is available. This new larger version will have some clamping capability in addition to a larger, more stable footprint.
In the meantime, he is providing some threaded 2.0AP-1 Audio Points for me to use, and will apply 100% of their cost to the new Apprentice XL stands when they become available.
Thanks are due Charles1dad, Grannyring, Agear, Tbg, Glory and everyone else who has weighed in on this technology with their personal experience. Your findings have given me confidence that it does something quite noticeable and beneficial. My system does not lack dynamics or speed, but I am curious to hear what these products add to these qualities.
Oh, and I am hopeful that the irrelevant BS has fully swirled down the drain and stays there! |
Nope, that was just his recommendation for me to use as the bridge product until the Apprentice XL platforms are available. |
Just popped in the Audio Points (by myself. My effective wingspan is wider than I thought...).
First listening is very favorable. Hearing more of the strike of the hammer with piano, stick hitting cymbal etc. Bass impression so far is not that it is reduced, but that I'm hearing more below say 100hz. Richer tonality perhaps? Soundstage width doesn't seem to have changed, but it is deeper and taller. It is easier to hear the individual contributions in two-part harmonies.
I'm almost rolling my own eyes as I type this sentence, but it's like the potential of the Salon 2s to benefit from what they are fed from the gear behind them has grown. A lot. Wicked pissah, as we say here in the Armpit of Cape Cod!
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Just popped in the Audio Points (by myself. My effective wingspan is wider than I thought...).
First listening is very favorable. Hearing more of the strike of the hammer with piano, stick hitting cymbal etc. Bass impression so far is not that it is reduced, but that I'm hearing more below say 100hz. Richer tonality perhaps? Soundstage width doesn't seem to have changed, but it is deeper and taller. It is easier to hear the individual contributions in two-part harmonies.
I'm almost rolling my own eyes as I type this sentence, but it's like the potential of the Salon 2s to benefit from what they are fed from the gear behind them has grown. A lot. Wicked pissah, as we say here in the Armpit of Cape Cod!
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Just popped in the Audio Points (by myself. My effective wingspan is wider than I thought...).
First listening is very favorable. Hearing more of the strike of the hammer with piano, stick hitting cymbal etc. Bass impression so far is not that it is reduced, but that I'm hearing more below say 100hz. Richer tonality perhaps? Soundstage width doesn't seem to have changed, but it is deeper and taller. It is easier to hear the individual contributions in two-part harmonies.
I'm almost rolling my own eyes as I type this sentence, but it's like the potential of the Salon 2s to benefit from what they are fed from the gear behind them has grown. A lot. Wicked pissah, as we say here in the Armpit of Cape Cod!
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Just popped in the Audio Points (by myself. My effective wingspan is wider than I thought...).
First listening is very favorable. Hearing more of the strike of the hammer with piano, stick hitting cymbal etc. Bass impression so far is not that it is reduced, but that I'm hearing more below say 100hz. Richer tonality perhaps? Soundstage width doesn't seem to have changed, but it is deeper and taller. It is easier to hear the individual contributions in two-part harmonies.
I'm almost rolling my own eyes as I type this sentence, but it's like the potential of the Salon 2s to benefit from what they are fed from the gear behind them has grown. A lot. Wicked pissah, as we say here in the Armpit of Cape Cod!
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OK, I KNOW I didn't post that 4 times! Mods, feel free to zap the extras. |
Roxy54, Pkoegz has yet to say the Stillpoints actually did anything to the sound of his system, or that they have a more beneficial effect upon sound than Star Sound's products do. His appreciation of them seems to lie more in what most of us would view as rather ancillary considerations such as "revolutionary design" and "unique machining."
So I'm not sure there's really anything there to respond to, in terms of audio anyway.
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Now 96 hours in with the Audio Points, and I am a total convert to this audio religion.
I'm not sure how they do it, but the affect is that the system has become both more precise AND more musical. The bass is tighter yet with significantly more prominence and slam - a superior foundation has been built. Microdynamics are better, treble is more detailed but even less fatiguing at concert levels, and imaging is both taller and deeper while being more precise, i.e. I can hear players in the soundstage RIGHT THERE.
And yeah, the apparent volume has increased too as Granny noted. The Salon 2s are not exactly an exemplar of efficiency so I've gone with high-current amplification solutions to make them hit hard when I want them to. It's nice to not have to draw so much juice out of the wall as I was before. |
"This was not any good."
OK, but how did it LOOK? :) |
What Roxy54 said. Lots of suppositions and oddball comparisons. For example, I don't think stereo owners who use spikes under their stationary gear do so for remotely the same reasons Usain Bolt uses them to sprint down a track lane. |
That's just guys posting stuff on the internet.
You could say the same thing about Tbg, Charles1dad, Agear, Roxy54 and others on this thread, and you'd be right about that. The difference is they actually used the products being discussed before they posted stuff on the internet. |