Stillpoints and reference-level speakers


Seems logical to assume that the makers of megabuck speakers would use superior footers in their designs. Any experience out there with Stillpoints isolation devices to support the reference-level offerings from Magico, TAD, Rockport, Tidal, and others?
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I don't think that I am swirling that much. I Always work and think the same way. I use a lot less different brands. Using more different brands gives you a less higher endresult at the end.
Today I received 12 Stillpoints Ultra SS for my speakers and subwoofer. I will write a review about it in a few weeks.
I don't want a tool what is ugly. Even when people would pay me money every day I don't want it.

I get irritated by ugly looking audio stuff. For a perfectionist this is a 100% no go.

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better looking.....
I personally hate the gold colour. Like I hate rings and other jewelry in gold.

I want to see as little as possible. It is just personal!
At the end you have to compare it yourself. I don't F...care what manufacturers say. Because I have proven that many times they were wrong.

You are the one who can hear if you prefer it or not. It is that easy.

The gold colour makes it look cheap and F...ugly. I don't understand why they didn't use a silver look.

I will write a review about the Ultra SS soon for under my speakers. It is impressive what it does. Without it you miss a lot.
I didn't buy the Ultra SS for the looks. I bought them first because I love the extra quality they can give.

It is an important bonus for me that they look great.
It is not about what people say, audio is about what you really can hear.

The thing I don't like in audio is that it often is based on political choices and how much money it will make.

Audio should be about quality and realism. I love music and good audio makes it even better.

But the problem is that there is so much shit on the market. When you have visited many people who spend a lot of money on audio you are aware how easy it is to get a low or average endresult even after spending a lot of money.

The 3D part makes music come more alive. I want as much people as possible get a stunning sound so they can enjoy their beloved music.

The Stillpoints have a positive influence on the overall sound. And it adds some extra qualities.

You Always need to be aware of the improvement and what it costs. Because you can use the same money for other improvements as well.

I really like the comments made on my remarks. You make me think how to do it differently. What people would like to see differently is the thing that counts most.

That is why I said; it is a personal thing that I don't like the gold colour. It doens't make any sense at all.

Audiogon is for me a fun place to be. I get a lot of important information of many people. And no I am not perfect either.

I still want to change audio in general. Because I have seen a lot of limitations in the 16 years I am in this business.

Maybe I am a direct person and often people think it is about me. The F word is used because I am irritated by the low level in endresult in audio in general.

The possitive thing is that I communicate a lot these days with distributers to change things.

I want to cooperate with them togheter. That means giving demos with many different brands at one time instead of only a few brands.

Because the endresult for audio lovers need to get better.

I have said it before; in the US there are many more brands and options. In the Netherlands we don't have many of the stuff you own here on Audiogon.

I Always look to find information about the stuff I never heard of.
That is why I said: I am better in sound than in words. Sound says it all.

Comparing between different options is the fun part of audio.

In 7 years of time I tell people first the difference between 2 and 3 dimensional sound. After this I give a demo. When they go to other shops they come back. And Always give the same answer; 3d is so much more involving.

I also hear it in the reactions. People who have a 3d sound play a lot more music compared to people who play 2 dimensional.

People who played 2 dimensional and play now 3 dimensional. Say that they never had so much fun in listening.

At the end audio is about music and listening. So keep it simple and convincing.
Hahahahaha...gold is hot...mmmmm....not!!

In my eyes it is an ugly colour. I am not a fan of spikes in general.

I am from the other side of the world.....
I am talking about stereo, not Multi channel. I also play over 90% stereo.

I owned the B&W Nautilus 802 and the 800 Signature. I loved the touchable image. But I didn't like their crossovers. I missed the depth of some other speakers.

The speakers who could give depth ( I sold Avalon for over 6 years of time) and other speakers missed the touchable image of the B&W.

In my head I thought: I want it all. I want a deep and wide stage. But I want a palpable intimate image as well. This part is the weakest part of Avalon.

When I was at my friends house during classical live concerts I was stunned by the intimate sound of an instrument and of a voice.

In 16 years of time I did compare a lot. The thing I love most in audio. I Always want to know which properties every single tool owns ( speaker, amp, source, cable, conditioner etc.)

After time you know when you make a combination of some brands what it will do togheter in sound and in stage.

MIT, Nordost, Audioquest, Kimber, NBS, Purist Audio, Transparent, Van den Hul, Taralabs etc have different influences on the sound, image, focus, level of black, resolution, dynamics etc.

I compared them often. Like I compare speakers. For example in 2009 I did lend the Wilson Audio Sophia 2 for 2 months. I Always want to know every single part you Judge a speaker for.

A 3D sound for me is a wide and deep stage with an intimate palpable image like in real.

When I play my favorite music I want to hear every single part of a recording separately. But also in depth. This gives a different feeling in how music influence our emotion.

The more expensive cables form Audioquest and Purist give both stunning black levels. They make the 3d stage more resalistic. It is a feeling of people are really in your room.

My 2 new Audioquest Wel Signature XLR cables did give me new level of listening to music. I never heard any set with this level of palpable image. 2nd and 3th voices are so much more apparent. Differences in Heights give a new view of my music.

The ribbontweeter give a much better palpable image than a dometweeter can. It also brings voices and instruments more loose from the speaker. This increases the stage also in front of you. The stage behind and even beside your speaker give you a more 3d feeling

At the end all parts togheter make the 3d palpable stage.
Speakers, amp, pre amp, conditioner, cables, stillpoints, source.

All these different tools I test to see which parts for Total sound they own.

That is why I bring in tools with properties a set doesn't own to make it complete. I do this also for my clients. It is a different approach, but very effective in endresults.

At shows you hear sets with a deep and wide stage, but this is only one part. When instruments become more intimate and palpable you go to a much higher level.
I did not have a lot of free time the last weeks. I have read the thoughts about this product. I believe it is a good product. Here in the Netherlands many people don't like the gold colour.

When the colour would be in silver overhere it would have been a nice product to sell. That is how I look at it.

I give some distributers idea's of new products what I read overhere at Audiogon.

I am aware that we have different thoughts about audio compared to how people think in the US. This has nothing to do about what is better. We are only talking about a different personal opinion.
Why are they using th gold colour? Personally I think it looks ugly. They should have made them just in silver!
I spoke a few people who knew people who died by the plane crash. The world is getting harder. In the world of audio it is the same story.

When I speak distributers you hear a lot of sad stories. It irritates me a lot. Because I want people to get the best endresult. In the Netherlands many shop buy unknown brands. They buy it directly from a factory. So they make a better profit. These products are often less than average.

The other problem what you see more these days in my country is that people who work in audio get less freedom in giving advice. Audio shops are often distributer of brands. They get the advice to sell these products first. I call it colouration selling. I hate it a lot.

I do it my way, I swimm against the stream. And you can't stop me. The best sound will win at the end!
They sound amazing and even look great, those both things make me smile.

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