George Where are you getting the notion that I intimated there would be any links??
Charley Hansen of Ayre Acoustics. He was a firm believer in
boutique fuses, aftermarket PC and voicing of his equipment via Myrtle
wood blocks that he actually supplied with his amps etc straight from
the factory.
Because I knew you were full of ka-ka, just like what you and your fuser buddies say about what sound differences fuses can do in a system a load of bull ka-ka |
You're in a large room, full of hundreds of audiophiles.
All are talking about the sonic improvements they are hearing with specialty fuses.
Who said they are?? you??? And where are the double the amount of audiophiles that say there's no sonic improvement?? you didn't even mention them??? Your full of **** if you think that that's an analogy, if you think that "could" happen. What a 🤏 |
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Not as low as him that's for sure. No way Cantankerous Charlie (rip), a dedicated Audio EE would back him even the slightest on what he said about fuses, that as low as you can get, a snake isn't that low. And your as bad if your siding with him. |
Like I said, and I asked nicely, "please show a link" to Charlie's (rip) statement you said he made, where "he was a firm believer in boutique fuses" and what they did for the sound. |
Really!! I knew Charley quite well (rip) when we collaborated in both modding a Wadia Digimaster X64.4 from Jock Homo’s website, he was the furthest from being a vood’ist snake oiler that I could imagine.
This I have to see. Please show links where he talks like you fusers do about the sonic advantages a >$150 boutique fuses give.
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Seriously is there a noted designer of amplifiers who is a proponent?
No one noted electronics engineer that designs amps and post here on Audiogon, will confirm any of the claims the fuser's are saying what they get from changing to these >$150 fuses. Cheers George |
For those interested in seeing maybe what shillers are among us, search for threads about fuses, I did and it was "the usual half dozen" that constantly come up for many many pages associated with these voodoo snake oil fuses. Then for also fun I searched the same but this time with posts only from jafreeman. Results were over 20 posts per page and countless pages that I gave up after looking through 10 pages. "Good-on-ya JA your ripping"
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You and
geoffkait
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An incredibly small list: tweak fuse designers who can design an amplifier I’d say it’s much smaller than microscopic, it would be more like infinitely small! Cheers George |
Why would any self respecting audio EE in his or her right mind post a positive take on aftermarket fuses Because they know it’s snake oil sunshine that’s why! And they sell their products to you guys and don’t want to loose any potential sales. Especially it’s the way you guys go on about what they can do to the sound !! And then especially reversing them in an ac mains environment!! And then there’s the cost!!!! |
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There's just one word for you guys "DENIAL" !!!!!!!!!!!!
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50c or $1 or $2 it’s a metaphor sunshine, they all do the same job, and is a massive difference compared to $160 for an SR Orange which does the same job, only the gullible think otherwise. Give it a rest, or "you’ll blow a poofel valve"😬 |
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anyone saying anything positive, about certain products they clearly have a personal vendetta against, is properly punished.
You need to get it right, snake oiler’s are the ones that need to be the punished. The OP most likely made a mistake as he did on the CDtransport/Streamer thread he started at the same time, because he mistakenly had EQ’ing going on when he thought it was switched out after much hair pulling. |
To those not very technical who are considering these snake oil products. Save your money and put it toward a real upgrade of equipment instead.
As it’s always the same old SR persistent shillers, that come back to these threads time and time again to spruik about the "incredible sonic benefits" of installing a >$100 blue or whatever fuse in place of the manufacturers 50cent one. And then have the hide to say the newer more expensive one when it comes out has even more "incredible benefits" than the $150 one. Don’t be gullible, and see where this is going. It’s like a malignant cancer. NO Electronic Engineer worth his salt will back this snake oil, and the benefits these shillers claim there are with these snake oil products.
Cheers George |
Even though some of you who have had no actual experience seem to be in a big hurry to dismiss what b_limo is hearing why are you assuming that he is not an experienced critical listener who is intimately familiar with his own system and is obviously very pleased with the improvements the fuses made ? Don’t you think that it’s awfully dismissive to be telling him that he can’t possibly be hearing the better sound that he is actually hearing ? Any EE engineer will tell you it’s impossible (snake oil) for a AC fuse to do this, unless it’s aged like this (linked), then that is debatable also. What you most likely heard was a fuse that’s seen too many turn on cycles, they get fatigued and hardened and build up crusty deposits , like these have with too many turn on cycles. Left to right https://ibb.co/G9XGH8Y Right to left https://ibb.co/b5dz1q5 Same "could" be here in some way,
maybe with fuse aging. Or what he heard when he started this thread at the same time, but it was tone controls of all things that were the problem, after much anxious hair pulling, re his last 2 posts https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/cd-transport-vs-streamer-2/post?postid=1991316#1991316https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/cd-transport-vs-streamer-2/post?postid=1991313#1991313 Cheers George |
Don’t know why people who favor fuses are so thin skinned. They feel guilty and have to continually justify them selves, over their snake oil beliefs they are trying to spread, or they work on a quota system with SR. Cheers George |
Having gone through complete sets of SR fuses ... the Reds, the Blacks, the Blues, and now for the past year or so, the Orange fuses, I can say unequivocally that each step along the way has brought new levels of resolution, improved realism, and a more relaxed presentation to my system.
Of course it did, especially after you ate the worm.🥴 |
If you can’t hear the difference between a Buss fuse and a SR Blue fuse then your audio system is not that resolved ,or have a hearing Problem !!
Naaaaa, ya gotta get this right, it’s more that you don’t have any expectation bias because it wasn’t you that paid >$150 for a 50cent fuse, but your gullible buddy who owns the fuse did poor sod. And just to add before it comes, "AC mains fuses are not directional", as the mains changes it’s direction 60 x a second that why the US it called 60hz mains frequency, in Australia it’s 50hz. Cheers George |
If you like what the Blue does their ECT and HFT And here we go, wondered when the "SR snake oil" band wagon would start a rolling again |
No need to spend $150> on a 0.50cent re-badged fuse save your money Bruce, just replace it with a new same 0.50cent one, from Bussman or Littlefuses. What you most likely heard was a fuse that’s seen too many turn on cycles, they get fatigued and hardened and build up crusty deposits , like these have with too many turn on cycles. Left to right https://ibb.co/G9XGH8YRight to left https://ibb.co/b5dz1q5And you should ask admin to move this thread to the Misc Audio forum Cheers George |