Spectron Musician III Signature vs VTL Siegfried?


I have the Musician III Signature two months. In my review, a month ago, I wrote:

"the sound, excellent to begin with, dramatically changed for the better. The highs became something magical, I never heard such in any solid state or tube amplifier. Totally silky and extended to heaven!!!! The "see thru" soundstage became immensely three-dimensional, truly, I feel sometimes that I can touch musician, go around him or her, and soundstage huge to begin with became even more specious! Midrange became "alive" like in the best tube amplifiers I ever owned or even auditioned, its magic feeling!!!! Base have now both: more authority and startling clarity - so different from one-note solid state and mushy tube base. I can play it quietly and I can play it loudly - no slightest strain. Additionally, black background became even blacker again as never in any other amplifier I auditioned in the past. It adds to the overall "magic".

Last week, I got well broken in VTL Siegfried monoblocks for a a few days of auditioning. Spectron cost $$6.5k, Siegfried - $35k. Spectron weight 50 lbs, Siegfried - 360 lbs. Both declare power into 8 Ohms - 600 watts and and into 4 Ohms - 800 watts. Headroom, Spectron 3600 watts over 330 msec, Siegfried - unknown. As a matter of fact, VTL except power and few others does not disclose its specs even such important as bandwidth and distortions.

OK, playing - both show big soundstage and good imaging. Treble is Spectron's domain, VTL sound simply murky and veil. Midrange is warmer in tube amp, very pleasant on ear. Bass - here is my problem. First, I though VTL bass is better - weightier and richer. Next I compare a few discs and to my surprise I am starting to believe that this monster tube amp bass is full of distortions, full of warm rich details which are not present at all in cello which I played and Spectron is accurate and after few days even surprisingly for me, I fall in love with Spectron bass - rich weighty. Perhaps, one detail. I am not sure I can physically hear deep bass but I can feel it, my chest is "shaking" my listening chair leather is vibrating etc. I hear it in Spectron very much and just a little bit with Siegfried.
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I am eager to know if anybody else have experience with Musician III Signature vs best tube amplifiers? Thank you very much for reply
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Showing 1 response by duraace9sp

this original posting is simular to my thoughts on this amplifier. i was running carey mono blocks....and parasound amps at one time before i went to a musician II (signature). these were all being played thru dynaudio confidence series speakers and a joule pre amp with all the tweaks. i have since evolved into a musician III signature played thru a BAT 51SE and Vonschwiekerts VR5SE speakers. Well i find the cary amps are now for sale, i will never play them again....though they were very good and my long time benchmark. the parasound is gone. this musician III is a sneaky sort of (wonderful) amp. i keep thinking i can do better....but then when listening...it is just so seamlessly accurate, without harshness....matches perfect with the VR5's....and the soundstage is ...huge. from jazz and classical to old rock...at any volume level this is an unbelieveable amp. maybe they should start charging more and make it more exclusive ... as this seems to be the only reason not to own one of these. i have now had spectron make me another amp (elite) with the musician III signature front L/R, and 5 regular musician III amps for a monster 7 channel amp for my theater system.....and this is such a monumental step forward from any multi amp i had listened to....i guess the bottom line is i am becoming pretty opinioned that these amps are going to be hard to improve on at any price