Speakers or room


I have a very lively room. Tile floors, large window and open area. If you clap there is a loud echo. Furniture is limited. I set up Kef LS50w and the sound is recessed not forward. The room is 26 x13 and even up close it doesn't sound good. Is it the room? What should I do ? Wife acceptance factor comes into play. 

brianportugal

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Lots of misinformation here.  
I would guess that I have more experience with LS50W’s than anyone who has commented on this thread.

Treat your room!  Get the wife excited to pick out your treatments from GIK.  Get the art panels or the new panels that have the wood faces.  Look online at what people have done.  Get creative with colors and shapes and the way you piece them / join them together on your walls.  Get a nice, big, fluffy rug made out of natural fibers, not poly.

Treating your room will make your room a more enjoyable place to be even when not listening to music.  It is easier to understand speech and conversations in a treated room.  Don’t move your set-up.  Make it more enjoyable for everyone in the bigger, living room.

Pull the LS50W’s out from the back wall and out from any sidewalls.  Adjust the settings under DSP.  
LS50W’s are phenomenal speakers when positioned properly, adjusted correctly with the dsp, and the room is treated a little bit.

They also take 200 hours of playtime before the harsh, bright edgy sound relaxes and they come into their own.  Let them play quietly overnight or during the day while no one is home.

Paired with a sub or two, they are exceptional and would knock the socks off any of your friends.  The waf is high on the LS50.  She might file for divorce if you brought some big clunky wooden boxes into the room that looked like they were styled in the 70’s and 80’s (insert Klipsch).

And if it mattered at all, the LS50W has a class A/B amp on the tweeter.  The crossover is handled in the digital domain as well, which can be beneficial.  It’s a point source design with exceptional phase timing and coherency.  The imaging and dispersion is exceptional.

LS50W’s rock.  Don’t give up on them until you have played them for 200 hours, placed them properly, set them up properly with the dsp and treated your room.  Remember, room treatments will benefit any future speaker should you decide to sell the LS50W’s.
To add to my previous post, the LS50W’s have waaay more bass than the passive LS50’s.  I actually preferred the bass response of the LS50W over the passive LS50’s and Rel T9i sub.  Neither speaker has much, if any, punch.  They are smooth, detailed, image like crazy and allow you to peel back layers of music that you may not of heard before, but they will not thump you in your chest.  If you’re looking for a speaker that delivers impact and large scale dynamics, you may want to look at other speakers.
My advice would be to buy a good sub, preferably 2, if not 4 (for a swarm set-up), cross the LS50W’s over around 80hz, and set up the dsp settings to your preference.  Buy room treatments and spend some time setting up and dialing in the LS50W’s.