speakers for classical music


Would like to hear from classical music listeners as to best floorstanders for that genre. B&W 803's sound good but want to get input with regard to other possibilities.
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Have any on the Mahler owners listened in their own room to a CAR or Avantgarde Trio speaker...with full orchestra of course?

Can we get a direct comparison from someone?
I guess there are two camps for audiophile reproduction, the SS camp with Lower efficiency speakers and the Tube camp with high efficiency speakers. To achieve a credible result for full symphonic orchestras in both camps top of the line equipment is needed. A mini monitor with cheap SS amps wont do it, and a single driver speaker with a single ended amp wont either.

The only SS-cone speaker system I have listened to that can do full orchestra was driven by Levinson monoblocks and had huge ADS speakers (with two 12 inch drivers per side etc. active subs, super tweeters) and top of the line electronics and turntable (RaulĀ“s system if anybody knows him) Mainly all other cone speakers I have listened to, even with good setups sounded like a nice reproduction of an orchestra, everything is there but smallish, really when you get your ears adjusted to that, these systems can be pretty enjoyable.
I had been going back and forth to cone and horn speakers and finally settled for horns, triamplified 5 way system, Of course because of the size of both systems and different electronics needed a direct comparison is very difficult, but the sheer dynamics of horns really put a smile on my face!

I was curious about a direct comparison anyway.....

FWIW, The Mahlers were on my list for a long time but never got around to them.
We are all cooking in this audio kitchen, I have tried SS chip amps with horns and it was very good actually, the one I tried (have) is DIY but I guess a more refined amp could do very well, a very close friend has the Avantgarde Duos also and just changed from a class A PP Jadis amp to a Meishu SE Audionote, on his system this change was very good I was with him during the AB comparison stage, both amps there...on my system PP class A tube amp (Leak TL12.1) sounded much much better that AN P4 go figure...
There is a big horn guy I emailed with in South Africa who is using Pass First watt amps for midbass and tweeter....but for mids he still uses SE tubes.
It all falls down to, do you want to be the conductor or do you want to be in the back seat, or way out in the hallway!!!

My speakers are about 105-106 db sensitive from 170 hz up (almost no resistors in the Xover), I use MONSTER 12 watt tube amplifiers...whatever you say you dont want to be close (11 feet) to a 300 watt amp and those speakers...what do you think the peak will be in db...
I havent done the numbers yet but I guess 115 db is not far fetched.
I have to be very careful or the speaker cable I use here, and of course I have a resistor stepped attenuator to finely control volume, now its sweet, its extended, detailed like crazy and the dynamics are to die for. not fatiguing or honky at all IMNSHO....
The biggest problem with horns is that you can go very loud and not notice it because distortion is very low, so the bass section has to be as dynamic as the mid-high region, when bass goes that loud things start to shake and you feel your chest thump, so its time to lower the volume...I use SS amps for my multiple bass drivers.