Speaker Recommendation up to 70k


I have purchased SOTA swiss front end which I can't disclose. They are solid state. 
Got room treated , cables sorted , power supply regulated, a comfy couch and books to read for years. 

Now I need a pair of beautiful and lively speakers to get me up and dancing when the track calls for it. A SOTA speaker that is worthy of keeping for years. Room size is 25 sqm/ 269 sqft. 

Final contenders: 
- Zellaton 
- Stenhiem 
- Tidal- Marten- Wilson 
- Borresen

I don't need (you need to listen and decide) suggestions, I can't travel and we got no dealers with demos. So I'll have to rely on users honest opinions about each brand above and are they worthy of the cost. 

No electrostatics and no horns please. Appreciate if you know how to get the most benefit at the upper botique level of speakers. Some might look fabulous and sound meh. 

Let's discuss. 
emerald

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Emerald,

SUGGESTION ______________
Maybe you could *also* ask Christiaan Punter owner of HiFi-advice website.

He owns CH Precision gears (pre+power, L1 & A1.5) and makes a lot of comparisons. In my opinion, he does amongst the most thourough (subjective) reviews of gears. I discovered HiFi-advice quite recently, and found it is well worth following.


QUESTIONS______________
Christiaan Punter (HiFi-advice) will surely ask the same questions as me:
1. What are your electronics (that you cannot disclose...)? This paramater is of paramount importance;
2. How far from your speakers do you listen (in meters, pls)?
3. "i would ask myself "do i want a hifi speaker that is a bit highlighted?" "exciting", "a specifically ’big’ sound?" or do i want something that makes me forget i’m listening to reproduced music and gets out of the way. with a more coherent and flowing sound?" ( < Mike Lavigne)
4. What do you listen to? Acoustic, unamplified instruments (=> timbres do matter, very much => Harbeth?), or "A little bit of everything"?


FEED-BACK ABOUT SPEAKERS ______________
Your "Final contenders":
- Zellaton //never heard; only heard the Swiss Ensemble 2 ways speakers years ago, which used the same zellaton cone. They were impressively transparent and fast-sounding.
- Stenheim // I know *very well* the fantastic Alumine Two, 2 ways. Nevers heard the Alumine Three (USD 30K). So I did a WhatsBestForum member this suggestion. But maybe not the most comfortable speaker for near or mid-field, as they reproduce the isntrument with all its detail, timbres and dynamics. AFAIU from the Alumine Two model, the Stenheim do not emphasize treble, nor low-mid; they sound very flat; but they are extreeeemely revealing. (though for near or mid-field listening of acoustic instruments, nothing beats a Harbeth, imho - then prefer the M40.3). Therefore question 2 !
- Tidal- Marten- Wilson:
* Tidal - I know a €80.000/pair model, power by Vitus; did not like the Tidal (transparent, but not enough body, and lack of naturalness),
* Marten - until now, no speaker using ceramic cones convinced me on timbres.
* Wilson - I know and like the DAW (a Harbeth M40.3, or 40.2 Anniversary, has still better timbres; but has less to offers on other aspects, especially imaging).
- Borresen //never heard them.
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I saw your tastes a bit later:
I listen to Classical, Jazz, Funk [...] So i would go for a *lively sound, accurate, fast and dynamic*.
=> I am inclined to think that a Stenheim Alumine Three (USD 30K, relatively compact floorstander, 93dB) will do the job perfectly. Not to listen near-field though ( >2.5m if possible; in a not too reflective room if possible; can be adapted with carpets and gentle absorption otherwise).

Here is a short report made by HiFi-advice of a Stenheim-CHprecision system, demonstrated in Munich. It seemed to match very well:
CH Precision electronics and Stenheim speakers – non plus ultra, not only in terms of cost, in sound, too! Based on looks, one might expect boom and tizz, but this system sounded neutral, coherent and transparent in the best possible way. It ranked very highly in my top 5 best systems of this show.
(source)

NB: please note that I have personally never heard a CH-Stenheim combination. But I can testify that a Stenheim Alumine Two + Aries Cerat (lively, outstanding tube gear) association, is genuinely stellar (I mean: well beyond what the usual big names of high-street high-end audio speakers have to offer).


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During the two ‘Brussels HiFi Shows’, my Harbeths demo created a stir, compared with systems that are ten to twenty times more expensive. (source, in French)
(Harbeth’s Brussels dealer)

Indeed, I attended the show, and can testify that his magnificent-sounding SHL5-based high-end system was Best Sound of the Show, and sounded better than a €80K pair of speakers two room further. But the former was setup by a master...
This demonstrate the uttermost importance of a good, experienced dealer. Online purchase is a mistake which, repeated, will bury high-end dealers alas (of course, in some region which are hifi-deserts, one have no choice than going online, I understand; the constraints are very different in some regions of North-America vs Northern Europe).

Now, *some* extremely well-chosen high-end very expensive speakers (much more expensive than Harbeths), if perfectly setup, can run circles around Harbeth though (I am a Harbeth owner). But I only know 3 or 4 of them. And only if one favors timbres.

That said, TBH, and according to his selection, I am not sure that Harbeths would fit @emerald’s demand (OP), who seems to be craving for speed, transparency and dynamics (on top of naturalness).