They are indeed great , however, a new series or generation of S might be announced next year and I can't risk buying a speaker at its end of life.
Would be in the shortlist otherwise. |
Thank you, it will be a blind purchase. I can't "listen" until they are setup in the room and since it's international shipping, there is no trial or return. |
Appreciate the advise, unfortunately I am in middle east, where we just look at deserts and enjoy riding camels and horses. There is one dealer over here and he only demonstrates Sonus Faber and Wilson sub 10k range. He is not interested to bring top ranges for demonstration and it is by purchase only (non returnable) too. It is as good as a blind purchase with local dealers since they dont offer returns or trials. Same goes for cables and everything else.
This is the worst era of audio business in our region during Covid. They got greedy because of some wealthy blind buyers who made this practice profitable for them. For me i hate to say it but i got no option but to follow a blind buy, but heck, i am not going to settle with sonus or wilson but decide after i read most of the opinions here.
I hope you understand my position. |
@clearthinker
I Wish, it would solve many things and i wouldn't have to write lengthy texts on the internet.
Can we exclude traveling please? i'd like to hear owner's opinions of their speakers and compared to the brands i listed. if you can't, you may enjoy reading with me, there are some brilliant recommendations in here.
Especially Zellaton, they are rare to find, let alone rare to compare with others. |
Thank you everyone, it was night time in my region and i am amazed at how some people would rant at my wordings instead of the subject. Privacy is a gem these days.
For those who asked about my old systems, here they are:
- Focal Scala Utopia paired with a Devialet 250 integrated amp powered by Isotek conditioner on full audioquest cabling.
- My headphone setup was Streamer: Aurender N10, DAC/headamp: Chord Dave, Headphone: Audeze LCD-4 powered by Audioquest Tornado cables.
As modest setups as you saw above, you will understand what i am upgrading to (or maybe not?).
The system was pre-purchased and i left speaker selection to be the last choice, i cant change what was bought or return it so there is that.
I was not planning to share the brand of the front end because of regional dealers and some of my audiophile group are lurking here and i planned to surprise them when the room is setup. You guys jump to conclusions, maybe relax and enjoy your time reading or find your way out?
I will provide answers since it seems necessary to find a proper match:
- Front end is:
Streamer: Taiko SGM Extreme,
DAC/Pre: CH Precision C1 paired with X1 power supply and T1 master clock (GPS option),
Power amp: CH Precision M1.1 (Stereo),
Cables: Argento Flow (XLR, Power cords and speaker cables) + Audioquest Diamond(Ethernet, Usb and BNC 75ohm),
Power Regenerator: PS Audio PowerPlant P20.
I listen to Classical, Jazz, Funk and a bit of millennial albums if they were well mastered. So i would go for a lively sound, accurate, fast and dynamic. Which is why i am shelling out this amount to be a complete (or 99% of it) speaker. I know there is no complete speaker, but the higher range has less cons per se.
I got a Kef R11 as one of you mentioned as a temporary speaker. It is shy in bass surprisingly for the number of drivers. Nevertheless, you get what you pay for, and it sounds okay.
I hope this answered what i remembered by reading all of the comments. |
I know it’s a tough question, speakers are very subjective like cars and food.
if it was easy then there wouldn’t be a lot of brands and paid magazines raving about their state of the art science in audio reproduction.
I may have a PhD (joke)in reading test reports and reviews and can tell a good one from a paid advertisement.
Already posted In whatsbestforum. Thank you again. |
According to audio shows I noticed Ch is usually paired with Magicos , Vivid , Stenhiem , Zellaton and others.
As everyone says , best sound is when heard in a home system with better acoustically treated rooms. Which is why I could read online.
It is interesting indeed to be extremely busy. Everyone is free nowadays? |
Thank you all , yes Dubai Audio is the more dominant dealer however they are biased to their brand list, like Wilson , Dan, Gryphon , Nagra and other small brands.
I am not interested to any except Wilson Sasha/Alexia 2 if I am left with no international option. |
@
parker65310
I have already shared my whole system, previous and current.
please read page one comments. Can't edit the original post.
I am shortlisting to Raidho/Borresen 03, Magico M2, Wilson Alexia 2, Zellaton Stage, Vivid Giya G1/2 , Stenhiem Alumine 5, Marten Mingus 20.
The rest of the recommendation, i will do my research about all speakers mentioned by reviews, forums and youtube.
Thank you all, great recommendations.
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I think we are drifting away from the subject. I did some reading and calls.
Someone named TechnicalPie who's pretty much gone to most shows mentioned that Zellaton is in another league than other high end brands such as Magico, Wilson and others in terms of refinement of sound.
I am currently considering Zellaton Stage or Plural Evo. The Zellaton Plural Evos that cost as much as Magico M2 sounds better than M6 itself as someone claimed. This is hard to believe and confusing. Did anyone compare ?
However very little is mentioned on the internet. Appreciate some feedback. |
Thank you everyone, I am speechless to the positive comments I am receiving in here and WBF.
Ch or any brand dealer or manufacturer might recommend a speaker based on their business benefit and sometimes it's political (same country recommendations) and I dont want to go there.
I have already disclosed my system in page 1 comments, please read through.
Wilson Benesch , Gobels, Stenhiem and Zellatons are under consideration.
There is slow used market in Dubai after COVID, mostly sub 5k stuff floating around. Whatever I buy must be initially satisfactory (the most challenging part), or else once used for a day , it will sell for 30-40% off it's MSRP at best if I can't live with it. It's big risk and less rewarding due to the law of diminishing returns. So I have to shoot my shot with 101% confidence to the right match and musicality.
Hence , the more feedback the more it becomes clearer of which speaker brand is worthy of investing on.
Thank you again , it's a journey for all of us. |
