Speaker Cables? why all the hype for expensive speaker wire?


After listening to many speaker cables, I am listening to basic 14 Gauge, high purity copper speaker wire and find myself shaking my head.  Does this basic speaker wire sound better than cables many times the price?  I am really starting to ponder that question.  I think I am hearing things on my records I never heard before and better balance of sound.  What are your thoughts?
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@ebm

Because its fun to spend big bucks on speaker cable.


hahaha that is the best answer of the week!  love it!

almost as much fun as setting benjamins on fire...
i agree w miller on this

when folks say ’prove it’ to something they don’t accept, it is naive and self centered and utlimately unproductive

folks who believe something believe it, they have come to accept that notion in their minds, in their own way

whether it is actually true or not, it is not their burden to prove it to someone else, although they may choose to share their rationale ... if any of us really want to know, we should learn, experiment, run honest comparisons to convince ourselves... and if that is too hard, well too bad -- still, no one is obligated to prove anything to you...

the spirit of this board is to share ideas, beliefs, discuss, debate -- we all take it as input, and then use our intellect, training, resources and wits to discern what we believe to be true -- and if something is important enough, we can choose to make an effort to find out and convince ourselves

too many people are too self centered, too entitled, too spoiled... you type a few words on this board about something, read something you don’t agree with...  no one owes you anything here, much less 'proof' ...
i agree with @decooney

but really good cables do not have to be extremely expensive cables

let’s not conflate the two

expensive cables also aren’t always really good cables, in an absolute sense, or applied to your system

the only thing you do know about really expensive cables is that they are really expensive


https://www.monoandstereo.com/2014/04/audio-by-van-alstine-abx-comparator.html

i find this unit indispensible in comparing many components and cables, esp. cables

very useful to combat confirmation bias and also disparate volume settings when trying to discern differences and preferences
@lalitk

Good suggestion but do you really think anyone would pony up for this device?

i have one, it is a very useful truth-teller... has been quite worth it to me, since i use it fairly often to confirm what i am hearing among changes in cables, dacs, preamps etc etc... excellent for confirmation (or refutation) of my initial listening impressions of new stuff without careful control -- more than a few times it told me what i thought i was hearing was actually not so once volume adjusted and blinded

granted once trying to figure something out for myself i am more willing to dig in than the every day hifi nut - i have been at this too long to trust the marketing drivel (or even my own ears at first listen...)

@hilde45

Can the ABX comparator be used to compare girlfriends/boyfriends for longtime placement in the rig that is our life? Because $$'s saved on divorces can buy some pretty nice gear. (Seriously: how good a rig could one buy for the cost, overall, of a divorce? I think we're talking some pretty nice gear.)

hey, that is what mother in laws are for!!!  or actually, as much as i know of frank v a, a lunch or cup o coffee with him in person would be a useful screen!  🧐🧐🧐
mee too -- all this talk of romans and food has me thinking about cacio e pepe for dinner!
i just don’t know why people who don’t have a decent system (and don’t aspire to have one) even come here and post this nonsense

i am a half decent recreational road cyclist, but not really a connoisseur of high end road bikes, but i don’t go onto the high end cycling forums, and post and post saying a $300 p-o-s aluminum bike is all the same as a $6k cannondale supersix evo...
@twoleftears

Have you heard it for yourself? Nope, you’re an internet troll under a bridge. You wouldn’t say that to my face. You’re a snobby little donkey hiding behind a screen and chewing on grass. Someone ought to put you back in the barn.


i can assure all readers here that @twoleftears is not a troll

he is an engaged, serious music lover and knowledgeable audiophile...
@mastering92

you have been on this forum only for 4 months, join date 3-23-2021 ... already 300+ posts, zero sales/purchase transactions, zero positive feedback

i read your comments on your ’system page’, seems genuine and altruistic, about helping others, but here you behave like a child, don’t even know how to insult someone in an adult way

@twoleftears and me... we have mutual respect, no more, no less, in this community -- developed through a collection of useful and helpful comments provided on music and gear over a significant span of time to users here

you... no respect earned, thus none gained

suggest you wise up, wake up, grow up, put away the keyboard - listen to more music, come to forums less -- if you have to be here, then read more, type less