Speaker advice redux?


Hello all,

I have already benefited a lot from advice on this site helping me to pick out speakers for a new system. I am close to a decision, and having finally thought through the various factors wanted to put my finalists to a vote here on Audiogon.

Here are the factors:

--the amplifier is the Creek Evolution 50a
--the room is small 9x11 (I will be able to pull the speakers out about 2 feet from the wall.)
--this is a row house, so I need a speaker that performs well at low volume. (i.e. neighbors).
--my musical taste is eclectic. I listen to jazz, acoustic, rock, and r and b.
--I would rather not use a subwoofer, although I wouldn't rule it out down the road.

So I am looking for an easy to drive speaker, that is not too fussy about placement (although will not be jammed against the wall), matches well with the Creek 50a, performs well at low volumes, and does a range of music well.

I had nearly settled on the Dynaudio Excite x12 before reading that they really sound best with quite a bit of volume. This has led me to go back and reconsider two of the speakers that Audiogon members seemed to suggest for conditions like mine most often:

The Harbeth PS3er

The Silverline Minuets Supreme Plus

So I wonder if those of you who have an opinion would care to vote as to which you think is the better choice, given the above described conditions? I should say too that the cost differential is not a huge factor to me in that both are within my speaker budget, and while I recognize the Silverlines are a great value, I am going to live with this decision for a long time.

With many thanks again,
Margot
mcanaday

Showing 1 response by bifwynne

Thanks Duke -- very interesting tech point. As you may recall, my speakers are Paradigm S8s (v3). The main difference between the v2 and v3 versions is that the 4 woofers are 3 db more efficient.

Paradigm changed the voice coil and the motor throw distance in the woofers to achieve the greater efficiency. I understand that they also "untapped down" the tweeter and midrange driver to match the woofers. Btw, the tweeter and mid both use ferro fluid to cool the voice coils. I suspect that these changes may have helped to mitigate thermal compression, but I honestly don't know if Paradigm had thermal compression in mind when it updated the S8s.

Last point, admittedly unrelated to this OP, so I'll make this short. You may recall that we had numerous on-line and off-line conversations about the electrical match of my ARC tube amp and the S8s. Two tech points came to my attention later that resolved many of my concerns. The first is that when Paradigm changed the woofers on the v3 and "un-tapped down" the tweeter and mid, the impedance peak at 2KHz dropped from 28 ohms (v2) to 21 or 22 ohms (v3). That's a good fact. In addition, I came to better understand that my amp is NOT a pure Power Paradigm amp because it uses 12db of negative feedback. As a result, output impedance off the 8 ohm tap is about 1.1 ohm. Output regulation is rated at approx. +/- 1.2 db. The stats improve even further off the 4 ohm tap. Output impedance may be 50% to 60% as compared to the 8 ohm tap and output regulation may be as tight as +/- .5 db. So, I've been using the 4 ohm tap and retrained my ears. I think the combo is pretty good after all.

Sorry for the hijack. Feel free to continue this off-line if you have any interest.

Cheers,

Bruce