Spatial Audio Raven Preamp

Lynn,

Yeah, no negative feedback and single stage tube design should be added to my checklist.

I recall first reading your articles on your nutshellhifi.com site -- "The Amity, Raven, and Aurora" and "The Karna Amplifer" close to 20 years ago.

The schematics made a big impression on me back then - quite foreign but so inventive - a modern take on an old Western Electric brain trust concept.

After finding this Raven thread recently, I then found the related Audiogon thread "300b lovers":

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/300b-lovers?highlight=300b%2Blovers

which I thought in some ways was as significant for tube amplifier design as your "Beyond The Ariel" discussion on diyaudio.com was for speaker design.

Anyone interested in the Raven preamp or Blackbird monos and also interested in amp design might consider reading the 300b lovers thread carefully.

After my own dilettante experience building low WAF tube preamps, owning various commercial tube, transistor, and passive preamps, and my search for an appropriate commercially produced tube preamp, then reading these two Audiogon threads, and recalling your Nutshellhifi writings, it really came together for me that I’d be able to own a pretty flexible natural sounding balanced preamp.

@williamdc

Glad you are enjoying your new Raven.  It does seem to tick all of your boxes!  We arrived there after much experimentation and listening.   I have always loved damper diodes, so I knew we were starting there.  The transformers took a few rounds to get exactly the performance we sought.  I had used the Khozmo attenuators for years, but I had to think hard about how to get them to do what we wanted.  It all came together.  You will find the bass improves over the first 100 hours as the very large cathode bypass film caps run in.  You get most of the sonics after 10-20 hours, but it subtly improves.  Enjoy!

Links to the aforementioned articles:

The Amity, Raven, and Karna Amplifiers

These articles date back to 2004 or earlier, and some of my opinions have changed since then. The availability of custom transformers opened a broader palette of tube selections, and Don’s work on precision power supplies offered a wider range of possibilities in the overall design.

I find it interesting that my objections to the sound of coupling caps is as strong now as it was back in 1997. Once you accustom to the sound of no coupling caps, adding them back in the signal chain is very noticeable. Much of what we expect of "tube sound" is nothing more than the sound of XYZ capacitors.

The Blackbird amps are indeed the next evolution of the Karna amps.  Same circuit, but updated power supplies and simpler tube choices.  All tubes are in current production with multiple manufacturers so there is plenty of choice.  The only exceptions are the voltage regulator tubes, but there are literally thousands of them out there to buy for under $10 per tube.  In the Raven, the damper diodes are no longer in production, but the same is true.  Many to buy and they last for years.

As for the coupling caps, yes I have heard most of the great ones.  I prefer a custom designed transformer.  To me, the transformer has basically no sound.  Not if they are custom designed for the circuit.  The caps all sound very different from each other, plus they take at least 20 hours to run in, with subtle changes for 100 hours.  The transformers sound the same from the first minute.  I was on the cap side of the ancient cap vs. transformer debate for years.  Then I got custom designed transformers.... Now I don't use coupling caps in any of my builds.....

@abd1

As far as I know, Spatial still plans on going to Portland in the fall sometime.  They are busy with the launch of the new smaller S6 speaker and the newer Q3 as well, plus they are ramping up the Raven builds.   I will post here, and of course on their board whenever there is a trip scheduled.  I know there are lots of folks in the PNW who would make the trip for a two day showing of all the gear...and Lynn and I would love to renew some friendships and meet new folks.