Sound Quality


First off, I am pleading ignorance here, so my apologies up front, but I need some help on figuring out what this digital stuff is all about. It was simple, just to pull out a CD and play it, but with streaming and such, it seems to be a whole different ball of wax.

After finally finishing the remodel on my home, I've have had a bit of time to sit down and listen to my system. My Aurender N200 came with an SD card loaded with music. Most of it is ripped from hybrid SACDs or at 16bit- 44.1kHz "Original Mastering Recording" CDs, (some are DSF files some WAV files, but all sound the same to me). The music sounds flat and dull but when I play the equivalent song on Tidal in 16bit-44.1 kHz it sounds much better.

I have a second SD card  with some HD Tracks CDs at 24 bit-96 kHz that I which sound really good through the N200. Maybe understandable being hi-res, but some say they can't hear a big difference between the two, but I sure can in this instance.

I understand that up sampling, DSD and HQ Player can even bring better sound to the table, but I'm having enough trouble with just the basics here, that stuff is way over my head. 

I'd like to rip a couple of my own CDs to a new SD card and try it to compare with the SD card that came with the N200. What is the best method to do this?

As always, your thought & comments are much appreciated!

navyachts

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OK, I have one for you all! I am trying to access the SD card in the N200. I get there but when I click on the file (Music 1) I get the Microsoft Security "Enter you credentials to connect to: (network address)

I have no username or password for this. I have gone through all the steps the internet has to offer on trouble shooting this, but nothing has fixed the problem.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to bypass the network credentials prompt?

Thanks all, OK, I Iike the idea of streaming only then backing-up files on the HD.

I was thinking then of formatting the existing SD card (instead of purchasing a new one and starting fresh. So how do I get the file ripped files on the computer on to the SD card in the N200?

Even further to that, how can I take the files that are on the SD card that's in the N200 and move them elsewhere?

 

@audphile1 are you referring to SSD drive mounted inside your N200 that contains that music library?

Yes.

You will be able to feed the M1S2 a native DSD signal and take full advantage of the Bricasti DSD DAC.

Where do I get this DSD signal from?

 Qobuz is slightly better than Tidal

I have tried both, some things I thought sounded better on Quboz, others on Tidal. I like the larger selection of music on Tidal. but when I get the M21 I will try again.

How do you "Highlight" your responses here on AG?

 

 

@audphile1 Says DSF Files not DSD files

@bkeske no, not USB thumb drive. SD cards that are inside the N200

@lalitk I don't want to play the files elsewhere on the network, I just to park them for reference, then freshly download them onto the N200 (now blank) SD card. Thanks

New DAC is on the way!

 

@cleeds OK, I think I know what you mean!

https://ask.aurender.com/hc/en-us/articles/360034834973-Connect-or-Mount-Aurender-to-a-Windows-Computer

Once in the N200 just copy and paste (it looks like?). I’m gonna try!

YES It’s going to work! I just need a larger flash drive (or something) to transfer the music too. Thank you!

@bkeske you're confused, I'm beyond confused right now (see last post) 3 hours on this issue so far, great Sunday indeed!

@lalitk thank you, but I was getting impatient and too quickly started a re-installation of Windows 10 before your advice, oh well. at least I know now, lol.

After a fresh install of Window, same thing. Yes, aurender/aurender are the credentials...UGH!

@lalitk  Once the music is all off the SD Card in the N200, is there also a way to format it (in place) so I can start transferring some newly ripped music to it (cut & paste)?

OK thanks gentlemen, FLAC it is! Further to ripping, is any old CD rom drive, like that of an old laptop OK? Or is it the better the drive, the better the rip?

@lalitk I ripped a CD using dBpoweramp in both WAV and FLAC and listening with on the same computer that I ripped, with a pair of earphones, I couldn't hear a difference.

Files were the same size in in a lossless uncompressed state.

Do you prefer WAV?

@mapman @ghdprentice fer’ sure, I’m sure this was the case. I downloaded the contents of the N200 SD card to an old laptop (for reference ) formatted the drive and have added my HD Tracks hi-res files that I have purchased in the past.

I’ll use Tidal/Quboz/whatever to discover music the use the SD card to add new purchases on in the future. 
 

Thanks all!

@ricred1 Cool, but I'm giving this a bit of second thought. Honestly (as some have suggested) with all the streaming content that's out there, there really isn't the need to rip CDs, I guess. That is unless you have something rare that can't be found online. Any other benefits you can muster?

 

@audphile1 said they were waiting for parts, nothing firm as of yet. Nice thing I found out, is it's already an SE unit, so saving some a bit of coin there. It's just the M1S2 and display to do now.

@mclinnguy so you can buy DSD files and play them as is, you don't need software to do so, just a capable DAC

@audphile1 will the M1 play DSD files? They will sound better, right?

@mclinnguy Cool, thanks for checking that for me! I have a few 192 & 96 kHz - 24 bit files that I purchased from HD Tracks but no DSD files, so I will have to source some out and give them a try. Where did you buy your Patricia Barber's Clique DSD 512 from?

@audphile1 

Use NDSD and feed it Native DSD from N200. 

Will do, thanks!

when you buy a hi-res album compare the sound of purchased file vs streaming of the same album

I have done this in sorts, but I need to do it again when I'm better organizes (ha, ha)

I am still recovering from the new OS install from trying to access the N200's SD card, (aurender/aurender) beyond lol...

 

I am ripping, what CDs I have now, in WAV - Uncompressed. Then will transfer them to the SD card on the N200. I also have a few hi-res albums from HD Tracks to add as well. 

Any good recommendations for a DSD 256 CD to purchase for a test drive, maybe something a little more obscure that the run of the mill "Top 40"?

@lalitk 

"First off, I am pleading ignorance here, so my apologies up front, but I need some help on figuring out what this digital stuff is all about" 

Need I say more?

File yes, not CD.

@audioisnobiggie The N200 sounds fine. Thanks for your thoughts on WAV over FLAC. I am re-ripping my CD library in WAV files and using dBpoweramp to do so.

I ordered the inexpensive DSD sampler from Native DSD and give it a try.

@upstateaudiophile I have run into this before. I thought a CD played via a CD player sounded slightly better as streaming music via the LAN connection on my Gustard R26. I haven't played a CD and compared it to the Aurender N200 and Briscati M1 SEII and probably won't at this point as I don't currently have a CD player and am not planning on purchasing one in the near future, I'm done for now.