Sound quality of Newer versus Older speakers

People who listen electronic music have not idea what is natural or colored sound, because nobody know how does it should sound.

The only way to tune an audio system acoustically is the human timbre voice after that acoustical instruments...

You cannot tune acoustically a system with commercial pop music and electronica....

Then you are right ....

My Mission Cyrus 781 at 50 bucks used (1989) are so good, that in spite of their limitations, i like them more than most speakers i have listen to but BECAUSE my room is under control....Before my acoustic control their sound was not so great...i was thinking to an upgrade then... 😁

These vintage speakers, British, were neutral but leaning toward a warm sound, they present details but not with harshness and no microscopic details floating and detached from the sound flow like very high resolution speakers which in almost any room are fatiguing... For someone listening loud music a few minutes it is spectacular.... But i listen music for 5 hours in a row sometimes more in a day.... I forget to say that in good acoustical settings their bass is so good that i dont need a sub woofer at all... I own one disconnected from day one … 😁 they are not so big but fill my room completely 3-d....

Name me a better speakers for 50 bucks or under 2000 dollars? Good luck.....Then anybody speaking against vintage speakers is rich in money or dont know what a good speaker is designed for....

Most people think they have  listened to their speakers for years, they will die never knowing that they have listened to their room all along...

This truth is unbelievable especially for those who already think that their room is ok....But all small room need not only passive treatment but more importantly active controls to help the speakers to work at his peak unimpeded....

I repeat that for the newcomers who will think about it.... For the others it is too late and unbelievable anyway...

The very best example of imagery that I ever heard was during an audition of a Quad ESL. The baritone sounded palpably three dimensional between the speakers.

So of course I had to buy them.

However my experiences at home were not so good (I later learned on here that my Naim amps were not the best match - the seller was using Quad amps, valve I think).

Still, I have to admit that no speaker that I’ve heard since (>25 years ago) has been able to recreate such ’reach out and touch’ imagery as those Quads did.

I think that your experience with the Quad was probably less caused by the pairing with your amplifier than  room acoustic....

I own average good speakers Mission Cyrus 781 and what you described i never have it with my speakers BEFORE my acoustical controls installation...

After that their imaging,3-d holography and listener envelopment factor by 100%...

Acoustic controls  is the most powerful upgrade anyone could do...

Some vintage speakers can rival any modern one ....

I speak about normal speakers not the cutting edge of the last technology at a price point so over the usual price point that most people cannot afford them nor even contemplate the idea...

Myself give me ANY relatively good speaker i will make it sound greater than you ever think it was able to deliver....

I know how...

It is called acoustic....

No speaker, especially those about which people boast the most, can beat the room where they work....Simple basic acoustical science....


Give me a straw and i will destruct or redeem a room/speakers couple , with the ratio of his lenght and his diameter and his location in the room ...Thanks to Helmholtz....

This is the power of acoustic laws, unbeknownst to consumers speaking about their last favorite speakers and selling them to be the best, vintage or new..

I prefer to sell acoustic enlightenment instead of  fad or "taste"....

But it is always more difficult to experiment than to buy something....Vintage or new....

Anyway a good vintage design with good materials for the enclosure can beat any new design less refined it is an evidence....Add to that a great controlled room and the distinction between vintage and new lost his power almost completely....

Acoustic is the queen in audio.... 



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