Sonus Faber Guarneri vs Guarneri Memento

guys I do not want to interrupt your comunication on esotar qualities or sonus faber speakers , but what on earth said to you that guarnery homage using dynaudio esotar(modified or not)? because its not true. guarneri homage DO NOT use dynaudio esotar in any of its nature. I know that personaly and can you assure 100% that fact. listenig nd trusting for internet information is realy like lotery.someone said fact and others repeats, so information gets missunderstanding for people.

So both of you are corect (side claiming that esotar is bad sounding, and side that guarneri homage is good sounding- there is no fundamental conflict betweet theese two statements) so peace.

yes it looked exactly the same as mine guarneri homage. I mentioned stick only for reference. no matter is there stick,or no stick, or sonus faber put stick with pamela anderson or mussolinni- that is NOT how we should recognize driver. its build parameters says all- first esotar versions no matter by which manufacturer its used- sonus faber, merlin, eaglestoneworks, unicef, NASA- the most common thing in esotar 1 is magnet size- esotar magnet size is 110mm , while esotec is smaller. that is MAIN reason when we can or can not say driver belong to one or other basic model produced by Dynaudio. I am not sure why I have been atacked-I am not saying anything bad(or good) about this speaker performance or build quality. all I say is that guarneri homage used esotec driver. at the same time i had and still have extreemas and amators mk1- they both had 110mm magnet size and definately IS one of esotar versions. that fact does not tells anything about these speakers performance either. just raw fact. why its so hard to face it? I would not publish any info which could bring missinformation to our audiogon members comunity. Anyway, sorry. I just wanted to help. now I see I shouldnt did that.

I looked at both pictures, I would say theese absolutely diferent tweeter. picture which you are refering to Guarneri memento tweeter is the same as Auditor M (vifa XT)- the only diference is front flange where auditor M have plastic one coated with some soft rubber paint(older auditor NOT M had simple plastic) and back magnet closing- auditor M made from plastic and this one with wood.

another pictuare you are refering to stradivari is based scan speak 70000 series - i see that neodymium magnet and clasic pin. its much faster and dynamic tweeter than first one.

i see why auditor M and Memento sounds similar to some people. I think to guarneri memento owners its quite a dissapoinment to see same tweeter as auditor M(i hoped that all homage series have same 7000 series ring radiator based tweeter)- and backward as owner of auditor M in bedroom system I am glad to know that my auditor M uses basicaly the same tweeter as guarneri.

because I had this speaker, i trust my eyers and many ears expierence with speakers technical stuff. its using dynaudio d28/2 marked" dynaudio d28/2 SF GH"
on the back it have glued rounded wood chamber, not sue about wood but it is white, could be maple. neither magnet size or internal gap,pole piece structure indicates that it belongs to esotar t330d family(which my extreema and electa amator mk1 have) or esotar 2 neodymium family if you refering to esotar name only.
its very close to stock dynaudio esotec d28/2 tweeter same magnet, dome. just aded back wawe damping,wood chamber and diferent front plate atached.

maybe peace now?

""""07-24-10: Milimetr
There is one more interesting thing - so far I thought that Stradivari Homage, Amati Anniversario and Guarneri Memento uses the same modified Scan Speak ring radiator. I have seen pictures of Stradivari tweeter ang Guarneri Memento tweeter and back of both speakers differ."""

Milimeter- probably it because diferent high pass transfer function- tweeter guarneri M would benefit from less pronuonced Fs peak(more compression and higher comliance), thus chamber could be diferent size , stuffed diferently- adjusted for better high pass function. amati aniversario can have same or very similar as stradivari, as thei transfer function similar. but this is only quess.