Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor old v new

The old Cremona's have a flatter frequency response...FWIW. Also please compare the Stereophile measurements for the old Cremona, and the newer Amati Anniversario. It is obvious that the old Cremona and the newer Amati were voiced by the same design team.

The newer Cremona's are a different story.

Also, please check the review of the M's in hifinews...the newer M's have a -6db extension of only 45 Hz or so, whereas the Guarneri Memento's have a -6db extension of 34 Hz. How can this be correct ?

Just some more information...I have not heard the new M's, BTW.

Thanks

Hulskof,

sure. Here is the URL for the Cremona M review: http://absolutesounds.com/index.php?page=17

Half-way down the page you will see a review of the Cremona M by hifi-news. Surely a funny looking frequency response.

The old Cremona's frequency response :

http://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/304sonus/index3.html

Huskolf, why would I think you are making this up ? I presented you with a frequency response curve for the M's, and you presented another review with a different frequency response. I like the curve you presented...it looks very similar to the Amati Anniversario's response curve (at least superficially).

Really odd...I hope Stereophile does a review. I think I am going to give the new M's a listen.

Also, at this level of refinement, personal choice is quite a big factor...in fact, I remember a person on this site who did extensive demos of the M's with the original Cremonas and ended up buying the non-M version.

Huskolf, in the review you posted, it says -3db at 51Hz...this speaker seems to be severely bass limited. This is also consistent with the hifnews review.

The older Cremona's went down much lower. $13K for a speaker that barely goes below 40Hz is a tough sell for me.

I have the old Cremonas for 4 years now. I have paired them with all sorts of gear, and they have completely satisfied me. So I find it odd that both you gentlemen make it sound as if the planets have to align before the Cremonas sound musical.

There is a review of the Cremona M's in the latest TAS, and Neil Gader comments favorably on the new M's. He also comments that in his small room, the speakers extend to the mid 20's in their frequency response (bass). This supports what Huskolf has observed.

Wonder why SF is so conservative in their specs when they claim a frequency response of 40HZ only.

Hulskof,

I read the review at the local B&B. I have not received my copy of TAS yet. Where are you located ? You can also download the latest TAS for $7 from the TAS web site.

If you own the Cremona M's, $7 is a small price to pay for reading a glowing review of speakers that you own :)

Auditor,

without hearing the two speakers side by side, anything you say is going to be speculative, to say the least.

Also, I think since you own SF's products, you should give SF the benefit of the doubt -- I would like to think that SF has done their homework, and produced a speaker that betters the older model.