Solid core OFC vs stranded OCC copper


Which would you chose and why? Benefits and drawbacks of each? 

Thanks!

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@sasho - I have no experience with the Neotech NES 3002 2 x 9 AWG speaker cable cable.

While it may well be a very good cable i.e. compared to other brands on the market, it’s touted benefits are proabably due in large part to the UP-OCC copper used

Based on what I see of the cable geometry, compared to my Helix AIR cables, there is an aweful lot of Teflon insulation used on seperate wires, together with PVC insulation, which would contribute to high DK values, so the overall the capacitance of this cables would probably be quite high like Kimber Kables wire,

  • which is not a problem with Tube amps, but some high current solid state amps might not like this cable.
  • Because of the high DK values the clarity, details and image would not be as good as the Helix AIR geometry

The Helix AIR approach to cables provide exceptionally low Dielectric Constant (DK) values, which mitigates cable distortions to extremely low levels, making it one of the best approaches for clarity, details and imaging

But - If the Helix DIY AIR is not for you, I would recommend taking a look at Zavfino cables. They use UP-OCC solid copper coupled with good cable geometry and their high end use Graphine, which apparently results in lower DK levels

Speaker Cables - ZavfinoUSA

As for my choice of UP-OCC wire

  1. OCC6N Copper Hook-Up Wire (partsconnexion.com)
  2. Neotech Copper PTFE Solid Hook-Up Wire (partsconnexion.com)

I have tried both of these in the Helix AIR geometry cables and #1 was noticebly better, but not by a HUGE margin, just a little more dynamic

Hope that helps - Steve

No romance agree yes there is difference between solid core and strand.Try monster cable they are strand, and Audioquest solid core.Strand do sound grainy and thinner.Solid core are cleaner sounding and better tonal balance in general.In my system strand for tubes and solid core for solid state.my o2 cents

Hi all.  I'm trying to avoid experimentation and looking for a cost effective recommendation around under $5 per foot for14awg copper wire to be used internal wiring from crossover to speaker drivers that would have realistic imaging, soundstaging and neutral sound signature.  

I was thinking initially to use solid core like I'm using from the amp to binding posts but realize it may be a little difficult to deal with being multple conuctors of solid. So I'm also considering stranded since it would be much more flexible.  

Also, would star quad or other geometry be overkill to use internally?

@eyecatcher127 

Who  manufactures the speakers and  What size and type wire is being used now ,  have you or are you going to upgrade the crossovers ?

On the Thiel forum there is a lot of conversation about internal wiring ,  I myself rewired using Cardas 17.5awg for the tweeter , midrange and using 15.5awg for the woofer , where the original wiring was 18awg solid  .  I have also upgraded the components on the crossovers .

 

@vair68robert I'll check out that forum.  They are ascend 3way with 6-1/2" seas drivers and raal ribbon. The designer has a new upgrade kit that is a klippel nfs redesign of crossover and updated drivers keeping the existing wiring and cabinet.
I invested in the kits, and I'm going to do the install. That is why I'm considering to upgrade the hookup wiring while I have eveything apart. The original wiring appears to be a niclely twisted pair of silver tinned changda 600v 14awg hookup wire with push connectors and soldered to the tweeter and crossofer. I'm considering using cardas, aq, canare but may just leave it alone since i'm sure i know it will change the sound and unknown if the change in capacitance would promote phase shift etc.