So YOU can't hear a difference in cables


I do.

I have a set of Van Den Hul the Seconds They get rid of the digtal glare and edge. They are non fatiguing to listen to.
They sound full and lush but give up some detail and soundstage. I can listen to them indefinitely.

My Au24's are more holographic, have better soundstage, detail in spades, but there is that digital edge and glare.

My silver interconnects sound good but tizzy on the top end. They are out.

Day in and day out give me the Van Den Hul the Seconds, no fatigue, but oh I want the detail and soundstage of the AU24's.

If you suffer from that digital glare or edge get the vandys.

I find that the louder the music the more that the cables matter. I find that cables "tune the sound".

Anyone have a suggestion for an interconnect that fits my bill at a reasonable price?
zilla

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RCA interconnects are what I am talking about.

I can't remember the name of the silver RCA interconnects.

I don't want to hear a difference but absolutely do.
Here is my system.

Bat 300XSE
Dali MS4's
Sony 333SCD
Audioquest CV6 DBS Double Bi-wire
Van Den Hul the Seconds RCA's 1M

Totally fatigue free.
In my system

the AU24's have an incredible soundstage, detail in spades,
are very holographic, and have a wow factor. They do have an "edge" to them that I hear with every cable I have tried except the Van Den Huls. Audience says that they need a 2-3 hour break in. I have only had 8 hours on them so far. We will see if they get better and lose that edge with time.

Gunbei

Audience says they take 2-3 hours to break in and will slightly improve for the next 50 hours. Yes I am fully breaking them in. I really want them to be the end all.
Reubent.

It was an A Rated Stereophile component before being dicontinued. $1200 list new, and is a giant killer.
I have always not liked most CD sound. This unit is unbelievable with SACD. I have always used the Van Den Huls because they take off the digital edge that is so fatiguing.
Myraj and Jea48

My Sony is being filtered by a Monster cable power filter.
I like Stereophile and believe that what JA hears I hear.
I have always agreed with him or should I say his ears. Again with the Van Den Hul Cables in place there is NO shrillness or fatigue.
Reubent calm down. If only money was not unlimited. Doing the best that I can. I trust JA's ears. I was going to get the Modwright Platinum Mod of the Sony 999 but some speakers just became available that I have been searching for for three years. Modwright is on temporary hold. Wallet you know.

Update: Au said 2-3 hours break in.
Well 15 hours in to breaking in and much of the glare is gone. So much for the 2-3 hours.

Just did two 15 minute session with each cable.

I like them both.

Vanden Hul is fuller bodied and more relaxing to listen to.
It is a darker sounding cable. Not a bad thing in digital.

Au's are more intense and the detail is awesome.
They have a somewhat more defined soundstage.

I really like both cables.
Au's are going to get a full break in. 50 hours minimum.
My Dali's took 200 hours.

Here is an ear candy treat. Must have in my opinion.
Jean Michel Jarre's Laser light show from Houston Texas. Drefus music 1987.
Wow. Really shows off the system. Going to post this under music.

So no one take any offense as non is intended. Just sharing some experiences with you I have had with our audio HOBBY.
So is the Monster power filter worse then no filter at all.
I do most of my listening late at night because it sounds better as you know. Should I remove it? Yes I will try that.
Cables are burning away.
40 hours break in and the glare and edge are gone. As for the monster cable power filter I have listened with it in and out of the system and don't believe that I hear any significant difference. I have it there to prevent damage should I have a lightning strike. If pressed I would say the bass is very slightly stronger without the filter, and with it the treble is ever so slightly smoother. These are slight differences.

The AU24 interconnects move you up a few rows compared to the Van Den Hul interconnects. The Vandys are smoother, fuller and allow me to turn the volume higher. The AU's are cleaner and clearer with more detail. I really like them both.
So I hooked up a new used pair of JBL 250ti's (1998 Classics, minty by the way) to compare to my Dali MS4's. The interconnect equation change. Now I prefer the silver generic interconnects to the other two, but the difference is so slight as to be virtually insignificant.

Interconnects make a difference on the Dali's to a much greater degree then they do on the JBL's. Don't get me wrong the JBL's have many strengths, and are very warm and fuzzy(in a good way). They seem to react to changing interconnects to only the slightest degree.

Perhaps the cable argument for those that don't hear a difference is real as they do not have speakers or equipment that is resolving enough to be able to hear the differences.

Two different speakers both excellent in their own ways.

Dali's strengths

holograpic or (three dimensional)
naturally detailed
violins and cellos (wow)
exciting to listen to
totally non fatiguing
Clean and clear plus wow factor
excellent speaker

JBL's strengths

Voice (vocal)
hugh natural but warm solid bottom end
trumpets
flutes
cymbals
sheer volume

sub note
these JBL's are a bit laid back ? ? ?