So how many use MM cartridge and intend to keep it that way ?


Not in entry level set-up.
I currently have Goldring 1042, Nottingham Spacedeck/Spacearm, and might try The Cartridge Man or some vintage cartridge later.
inna

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I was a ZYX owner too, upgraded from silver coil Airy III to copper coil Premium 4D model. When the cantilever on my 4D was stupidly broken by accident i was shocked by the price of exchange programm to get the new 4D instead. Even with very special offer from US distributor it was definitely too much for me, i tried to save money for exchange to get my Premium 4D back to work. You know that you can’t rebuild ZYX to original specs nowhere in the world when the cantilever is broken. So they are actually exchange broken cartridge to completely new cartridge (no chance even for retip by Nakatsuka-San, only exchange to a new cartridge if you ship your broken unit back to official distributor). This is extremely expensive cartridge to live with and to use everyday! When i realized the situation i decided to try some of the best vintage MM cartridges, because before i bought my ZYX carts i owned rare Technics EPC-100c mk3 and EPC-205c mk4, but i was influenced by MC propaganda, lol
This story is about 4 years old.

Now i have more than 20 rare vintage cartridges on hands and all of them are top of the line models. About 5 of them are rare vintage MCs, the rest are MM/MI/MF.

Most of those vintage MM cartridges are even more attractive than my ex ZYX premium models. Some of the vintage MCs are still waiting my audition, but i hope i will not disappointed by my FR-7f, Ortofon MC2000 arrived this month.

My goal was to spend in a couple of years similar amount of money required for one single ZYX exchange (which is about $3000), but to try as much as possible top vintage cartridges. The idea was to try great cartridges in my system on many tonearms to find out what i really like, based on my own experience.

I would never buy single MC cartridge even for $1500 and will avoid any MC cartridges in $2000-5000 price range. Simply because $500-700 vintage MM cartridges are even better! And vintage MC under $1500 are also better than modern $3000-4000 cartridges. This is my personal opinion, of course, but at least i tried many cartridges to make this conclusion for myself.

I use Technics SP-10mk2, Luxman PD-444 and Technics SP-20 turntables. My current arms are Reed 3p Cocobolo "12inch, Sony PUA-7, Victor UA-7045, Luxman TA-1, Lustre GST-801

I’m pretty sure that vintage MM cartridges are must have for any audiophile to compare modern MC sound to the lost vintage MM sound. Most of the mega rare vintage MM carts are still under $700-1000 used, but even used $300-500 vintage MM are gian killers if you know which one to choose, thanks to the audiogon contributers, loads of great stuff was discovered over the years.

I don’t care about modern MM cartridges!

@inna 
Why do you not care about them?

I think i already explained in another thread not so long ago.
BTW the Cartridge Man is just reworked Grado ? I would advice to check Joseph Grado (signature model) XTZ before buyin' Cartridge Man. The XTZ was TOTL and the price in the 80s was $750. 

I am a tape man so naturally I want to come as close to the tape as possible.

Then you should check this TAS article (from the golden age of analog) if you haven't seen it before. Those guys comparing digital master tape, analogue master tape, direct-to-disc lacquer and the "live" mike feed; the report consists of a long conversation among J. Boyk, Keith Johnson, Doug Sax, and J. Tammblyn Henderson. 
 
"What cartridge, what exotic audiophile wonder of disc playback, was producing these marvels? What cartridge could have the "lowest distortion of all," "uncanny" resolution, better than master tapes? The answer is (I wish I could put a page turn here): The Stanton 881 Mk II.

The scene shifts. Kavi Alexander, auteur of the remarkable Water Lily Acoustics series of analogue vinyl discs, is monitoring disc production by comparing test pressings to the master tape. What cartridge is he using? Another moving magnet, this time the Technics EPC-100 mk4...

Audio-Technica AT-ML170 is very similar, and very close to the actual sound of the tape. In this comparison, he says, virtually no moving coil does so well; most have seriously apparent colorations."   

Personally, i prefer the AT-ML170 (i have a spare) and AT-ML180.   
 

@nandric 

ZYX airy 3 and

Nakamichi 1000. (chakster my ZYX got a new cantilever/stylus

combo + new suspension by Axel for about 500 euro).

This is no more a ZYX, because the original ZYX cantilever/stylus combo is way different from anything else on the market if you saw them under microscope. At the same time i saw Axel's cantilever/stylus combo and compared them. I have contacted various retippers when my 4D was broken to see what they can offer. I think it's critical for ZYX cartridges and that's why they are what they are (unique in it's own class). 

Look at the Cartridge Man, then look at the Grado
Compare the prices, you'll be surprised. 

I can list some of the very best MM/MI/MF from my own collection:

Glanz MF61
AT-ML180 OCC
Grace F-14 Exellent (w/F12B stylus)
Grace F-14 LC-OFC
Grace LEVEL-II BR/MR
AT-ML170 OFC
AT-20SL
Garrott P77 
Joseph Grado Signature TXZ
Pioneer PC-1000 mk2
Stanton W.O.S. 
Victor X-1II
Victor-X1IIE 
Technics 205c mk4