So, “Audio Science Review” really doesn’t like this video


There is a recent video by Steve Guttenberg’s friend Mark on speaker isolation devices. In the video, Mark uses informal listening observations and a microphone and software to try to distinguish differences between different isolation devices with inconclusive results. He then resorts to a blind ABX test with an interesting control related to speaker position.

I really like it for several reasons. One, it is well produced and dryly funny.  Two, it shows a promising approach to blind ABX testing.  I am also in the market for speaker isolation devices.

I posted it on this forum yesterday highlighting the ABX element and nobody commented.  I also posted it on Audio Science Review where it prompted a page plus of discussion including the forum host Amir, most of it skeptical, and then today it was pulled from the site.  The mic drop seemed to really irritate some people there. Or I don’t know, maybe it was something in one of my posts in reply - l’ll never know now.

I am curious what folks on Agon think about the subject matter, the approach and the production values of the video.

https://youtu.be/XAOD3aUfIYQ?si=pYs72o9UAl-21LH6

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Showing 2 responses by elliottbnewcombjr

I would rather he tested floor standing speakers, but his conclusion (favoring absorbing isolation, not hard transfer spikes) matches my own conclusion after many years.

Years ago, I thought I was so smart when I removed the wheels of my JSE Model II’s and installed spikes (on my springy wood floor).

SOLID, all intended movement gets to the cones, right? All that weight onto 4 small discs is soooo much more weight per area, just tons of force, right?

After a few years, I put 3 wheels back on, (two front, 1 center rear, with rear anti-tip corner blocks just shorter than the wheel, only contact if the speaker tilts while moving it). I didn’t measure with a mic, but I heard no detriment, and got back the ease of positioning and alternate toe-in. 

 

https://www.audiogon.com/systems/11516

BTW, dual wheel furniture casters, the axels do not wobble like single wheel casters do (even high quality ones I tried). The block above the 2 front wheels tilts the speakers back, aiming the tweeters to seated ear height. 

In this case, the skirt acts as the anti-tipping blocks in the rear corners.

So, my 6 wheels are hard plastic, the contact area small, not absorbent, it's a matter of enough weight relative to the wheel's diameter, so they stay put, but you can move them readily.

I gave the spikes to my friend, he has them on floor standers, on a concrete basement floor, no movement possible, and his imaging is great, only if you sit in the middle, I would put his on 3 dual wheel casters like mine, slightly smaller diameter for his, to use an alternate toe in for 2 listeners. His are narrow, taller, tweeter at seated ear height, so no tilt is needed. I prefer shorter, both inward angle and tilt to alter the angles of reflections off the floor, ceiling, side walls, especially minimize woofer floor reflection

my electrovoice crossovers, made in 1958, are in the photo above, x336, a metal can painted grey, filled with tar. I thought, age, make some new ones. Custom builders advised me they last forever, as do the drivers of the horns (impregnated linen). I did burn a tweeter coil blasting Iron Butterfly way back when. Playing the reel to reel version, you can make out the drunken ’in the garden of eden’ ....