Hi all
I'm new to the site but wanted to comment on this thread as I am using both the shuguangs and ps vanes in my system. The system comprises of a valve cd player into a valve pre amp/headphone amp into the direct feed on a mastersound 845 intergrated amp into a pair of spendor classic sp3/2r2 speakers. inter connects are all chord indigo speaker cable is kimber and all power cords are russ andrews. Headphones are seinnheiser hd 800 and audio technica ath w-5000. I split my time about 50/50 between headphone and full system listening
As mentioned above I have been using a pair of shuguang black bottle treasure cv -181s as the power out put tubes in my Icon Audio CDX 1 cd player. My headphone/pre amp is the quad PA -One which I also re tubed with Shuguang treasure cv - 181s. I experienced much the same regarding burn in as others on this thread. I have just purchased a pair ps vane cv 181s which are in the process of burning in on the cd player at the minute. Initial thoughts on the ps vanes are they are in the same ball park sound quality wise and are displaying the same characteristics the shuguangs did whilst they were burning. Having read reviews and comments on the ps vane before purchasing them they take about 300 hundred hours before they really start to sing. I will do some serious comparisons between the two sets of valve once the ps vanes have about 300 hours on them but To be honest though at the minute I am not detecting that much of a difference which is a bit of a bummer as the ps vanes were quite a bit more expensive. Having said that it is a while since I had the treasures in the cd player so I may be looking through rose tinted glasses at just how good the treasures are. I also tend to look at the negatives with new gear (especially expensive gear) before I see the positives. So I may be doing the ps vanes a dis service
I'm not really great at expressing my thoughts in audiophile terms but I will say my system may not have gut renching bass and is perhaps not the crispist in the treble but it does have musical coherance, a extremely wide soundstage, is laid back (which how in my opinion life should be) and loves most of the music I throw at, does not cause the listener farigue and puts the biggest grin on my face everytime I power it up. I think a lot of this comes down to a combination of synergy between components and interconnects and tube rolling
On a side note has anyone had any experience with ps vane 845s. The 845s I have in the intergrated are stock Chinese valves so I would love to hear any reviews on the ps vanes (or any other 845s for that matter) as I am thinking my next upgrade will be a change of power valve. The ps vanes are really expensive so any advice on cheaper alternatives would be much appreciated
Thanks for reading
Mark
I'm new to the site but wanted to comment on this thread as I am using both the shuguangs and ps vanes in my system. The system comprises of a valve cd player into a valve pre amp/headphone amp into the direct feed on a mastersound 845 intergrated amp into a pair of spendor classic sp3/2r2 speakers. inter connects are all chord indigo speaker cable is kimber and all power cords are russ andrews. Headphones are seinnheiser hd 800 and audio technica ath w-5000. I split my time about 50/50 between headphone and full system listening
As mentioned above I have been using a pair of shuguang black bottle treasure cv -181s as the power out put tubes in my Icon Audio CDX 1 cd player. My headphone/pre amp is the quad PA -One which I also re tubed with Shuguang treasure cv - 181s. I experienced much the same regarding burn in as others on this thread. I have just purchased a pair ps vane cv 181s which are in the process of burning in on the cd player at the minute. Initial thoughts on the ps vanes are they are in the same ball park sound quality wise and are displaying the same characteristics the shuguangs did whilst they were burning. Having read reviews and comments on the ps vane before purchasing them they take about 300 hundred hours before they really start to sing. I will do some serious comparisons between the two sets of valve once the ps vanes have about 300 hours on them but To be honest though at the minute I am not detecting that much of a difference which is a bit of a bummer as the ps vanes were quite a bit more expensive. Having said that it is a while since I had the treasures in the cd player so I may be looking through rose tinted glasses at just how good the treasures are. I also tend to look at the negatives with new gear (especially expensive gear) before I see the positives. So I may be doing the ps vanes a dis service
I'm not really great at expressing my thoughts in audiophile terms but I will say my system may not have gut renching bass and is perhaps not the crispist in the treble but it does have musical coherance, a extremely wide soundstage, is laid back (which how in my opinion life should be) and loves most of the music I throw at, does not cause the listener farigue and puts the biggest grin on my face everytime I power it up. I think a lot of this comes down to a combination of synergy between components and interconnects and tube rolling
On a side note has anyone had any experience with ps vane 845s. The 845s I have in the intergrated are stock Chinese valves so I would love to hear any reviews on the ps vanes (or any other 845s for that matter) as I am thinking my next upgrade will be a change of power valve. The ps vanes are really expensive so any advice on cheaper alternatives would be much appreciated
Thanks for reading
Mark