Larry: Thanks for the info on what to expect from various tubes. I want a 3-4 piece bedroom system with small fostex DIY monitors + powered subs or 4 ft folded horn, but for now I'll start with a pair of KEFs w94 db sensitivity currently in my bedroom, maybe I'll get lucky with them). Bedroom is 25 x 20 x 12. NO TURNTABLE!!!. An Agon member is selling a pair of built upgraded Bottlehead 2a3 monoblocks for 750 which started me thinking. My instinct says go with Dared or Almarro and not a kit in the same price range if things don't work out or I can put it somewhere else where I have more room and do a SET system properly. I have drawers full of 6SN7, 12AT AX AU and rectifiers from other systems and this can get frustrating at times but I have no listening experience with SET equipment, but, tubes are the way to go. So far no easy answers, but thanks for all the food for thought.