Serious Question About Silver vs Copper Conductivity for Power
Yes, I realize that this topic is going to bring out the sharks, but if I get at least one serious response, it will all be worth it.
I understand that silver conducts 7% faster than copper. I also understand that using a dielectric insulation like Teflon is best at keeping the wire from overheating, stopping signals entering and stopping signals from leaving the conductor. I understand that a certain amount of math is involved in selected gauge of wire depending largely on how much power the component is going to take, and how much the amperage is (20 or 15).
My question is regarding certain features applied to either silver or copper conductors that may or may not have an advantage over one or the other.
I have the Kimber Kable P14 Palladian. This uses 14awg copper conductors insulated in Teflon. Then it adds a massive filter that attempts to mitigate the standing wave ratio to as close to 1:1 as possible. I had Kimber’s Ascent power cable prior. It’s identical to the Palladian, except the filter. I have heard the difference between using those two cables. Apparently, mitigating the standing wave ratio lowers the noise floor significantly. However, any filter that chokes the signal and will slow the electrical current.
As I understand it, the amplifier works by opening the rectifier to allow the capacitors to fill with energy that the system will draw from. Being able to keep the rectifier open and fill the capacitors as fast as possible, reducing lag time, has the effect of creating more realistic and detailed sound.
With that said, changing to a power cable that uses pure silver insulated in Teflon, will ensure that power is delivered potentially faster. Although, the silver power cable will NOT have a filter. Therefore the standing wave ratio will not be mitigated and the electrical signal will not be choked either.
So, would the amplifier benefit from faster electrical current or slower, but cleaner electric current? Since this signal isn’t directly applied to sound, the concepts of “colder” or “warmer” sound should not apply.
Can someone help me out without poking fun at the question? Additionally, I am not interested in having a cable-theory debate. If you don’t believe cables make any difference, I will not debate or have discourse on that topic.
@ditusa , unfortunately, it appears the poster has a real cable in mind.
The specifications for this are what I expect from a poorly engineered untested product on Alibaba or Ebay. |
It is easy to troll people who are in a rush to prove what they know, especially if what they know is not a lot. If this is a troll, a lot of effort has been put into it. The poster has system pictures with many expensive accessories.
The first clue should be the $699/pair, powered speakers, that makes up the reference system. Most should have checked out at that point if they didn’t check out from the insistence that those most likely to be able to answer the question don’t answer the question. Expert troll or begging the answer or just confused? Either way, it has sure brought some people out with some very curious ideas of how electricity and circuits work. I find it entertaining.
Okay, I will play along just for fun. If you insist on only getting answers from people who don't have the knowledge to answer, why are you surprised that the answers are all over the place. People with the appropriate knowledge will all respond the same. People without the appropriate knowledge will be guessing and their answers will be all over the place.
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One day you will understand that you, holding yourself up, as you are, as the arbiter of what is correct and not correct, when you lack any ability to do that, can never lead to an advancement of your own knowledge. I am not assuming that Lavricables is incapable of good engineering or haven't tested their products. I am stating it. They are violating at least 2 aspects of the electrical code which verifies my statement about their products not being tested at a minimum for safety. |
The safety violations are not invented. Knowing that takes expertise, some of the same expertise required to discern what is and is not relevant in this conversation. You seem unwilling to accept expertise that contradicts what you think you know so I will wish you good journey. I see no value in contributing further to this topic. If anyone would like to know what those violations are, feel free to message me. I do not wish to contribute here. |
This thread is like Saturday Night Live and Harry Potter all rolled into one.
You are doing an excellent job as the "straight man" @holmz. You are going to have to work much harder to top this comedic line though,
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It will take about 2 minutes to go 1 meter and skin effect is important way below 1Ghz. It is measureable at audio frequencies but not audible. That copper pole in the ground is not nearly as important as audiophiles think it is. I doubt many (any) could elicit a good answer on what it may or may not do |
Glad I stuck around. That last one was well worth the price of admission! Booyah! I have figured it out. @guakus must be a bot, stringing together terms that sound like they are important and mean something, just like a bot would, but in both cases lacking enough understanding to maintain coherency. That or someone has read too much SR advertising copy, which is the equivalent to monkeys writing about physics.
A bias field w.r.t. a dielectric is an external field that impacts the dielectric constant. However, you need large fields, on the order of volts/um to make any difference. Even if the insulation was "polarized", it would be DC, and we are dealing with AC signals. We know the size of the capacitor, the DA, the source/load impedance, etc. Any more pearls of wisdom for us @guakus ? I am laughing so hard I am not sure I can take any more.
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There is a reason why the electrical code does not permit less than 18awg wires for detachable cords or permanent cords as well. It also requires the ground wire to be equal or larger than the supply wires unless the branch is protected by a suitable current limiting device, in this case, the one in the breaker box, not the equipment. |
