Sellers Beware!!!


Folks, 

I am wondering if anyone else here noticing the latest trend on Audiogon. I have been approached by buyers in Vietnam to buy my listings. I have gotten at least dozen offers in last month or so, they are pretending to be US based buyers, with US address and do not disclose their actual location until you have accepted the offer.  I have already declined two confirmed offers as soon as I figured out their true identity. The US address being provided on Audiogon is either a local business shop run by Vietnamese native or a 'friend' address. I googled the address and called the local address listed on Audiogon. It turns out to be small business shop and the owner had no idea about the sale or the product he is about to receive in next 2-3 days. 

The icing on the cake, the buyer gets bent of shape when you point out these last minute surprises and then try shift the blame on us that we are not very 'trusting'. Go figure! 

I am outlining some of the things that were common in my dealings, 

1. Broken English (sorry no offense)
2. 12-14 hour delay between communications
3. Start off with low ball offer and then agrees to pay within 10-15% off of your asking price
4. Unusual delay in receiving payments, they tend to apologize profusely and blame PayPal for delay
5. They will ask you to 'absorb' PayPal fee due higher percentage charged by PayPal on intl. transfers
6. Negative, neutral or no feedback
7. The address in their Audiogon profile will be either in west cost (CA) or east coast (NY). 

This thread is not intended to target a certain race or nationality, the sole purpose of this thread is to create awareness against the 'sneaky' buyers. I welcome all buyers, domestic or international and wish them a hassle free buying and selling experience on Audiogon. 

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After reading all of these comments, it is fair to state that, I would not buy anything from you guys...
Without a single little note/email PayPal froze my account w/ 3 thousand euros and my business for 5 weeks because of buyer´s crazy dispute on an eBay sale. After that 5 weeks fight for my rights as a honest seller eBay surprisingly admitted it was not my fault at all. Because the pics in my ad clearly showed the biggest flaws/marks on the item that buyer was claiming about. Actually buyer tried to fool both me and eBay, of course it was his biggest mistake. LOL  And my item also worked flawlessly as I had stated in my ad.

During this dispute not single note from PayPal whatsoever, not to mention an apology for almost destroying my economy.

Well, this time I was just lucky. But this ain´t gonna happen never again.

PayPal is the biggest scam artist there. We are all a happy family till THEY screw us.

PayPal and eBay will never ever again play games with me.

Screw PayPal  
Need to start a "Winter War" with PP.
Get those boys from Ostrobothnia on their case .
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If you love to get ripped off and scammed then sell to Vietnam buyers they won the war now they are trying to win Audiogon.I only sell to buyers in the lower 48 with 2 or 3 pages of positive feedback.I have had several scam artists try to scam be wise be smart good luck.
I won them, and my father and his brave brothers in arms won Russians in 1940.
Thanks dear Dad, RIP. Long live Finland !

Be careful, be wise...   and best of luck
I have sold speaker to a Vietnam buyer. Deal went through very well. Apprently he had a friend in the states who does the payment on his behalf. If you don't mind me asking what does he call him self on the emails?
Amen harold .
Many professional soldiers, which I once was, consider Mannerheim and Company to have done the greatest feat of arms in modern times .
To include a Soviet Major I used to sit next to at East Berlin Opera !
schubert, you are absolutely right. Mannerheim is our national hero, recognized by all kinds of political wings, even some extremist communists, Stalinists. His feat for end the Civil War in spring 1918 is another heroic achievement and to save national independence in between hostilities between Germans and SU. Finland´s forte ever since has been neutrality and with God´s blessing will be till the end of time.
I much appreciate your knowledge and intelligence.