Seeking a new loudspeaker, horn, single driver, concentric or open baffle


My current system consists of the following:

  • 1. Martin Logan 11A Impressions (hybrdid)
  • 2. Bryston 4B3 cube3d power amp 300/channel into 8 ohms
  • 3. Rogue Audio RP-1 preamplifier
  • 4. Lumin U2 mini streamer with LHY linear power supply
  • 4. Weiss 204 Dac with Modwright power supply
  • 5. SVS 2 subs SB-2000

Looking for a loudspeaker that sounds rich, full bodied and alive at 50-55 decibel levels. My hearing just checked is within normal limits at 73. Above db levels of 60 is uncomfortabIe. Also purchased the Schitt Loki Max equalizer to counteract the Fletcher Munson curve but did not help. I have read about many speakers, such as the Volti Razz,  Lucera,  JBL 4349, JBL 4367, Devore 0/96,  and Zu audio.  Would any of my choices listed above meet my goals? Would appreciate any suggestions that as well.  The other issue is that I live on Long Island and not many dealers that I know of  have speakers on hand for audition. My price range new only is $12-$15,000.00. But at those numbers, want to hear first, before buying. Not willing to drive or fly to Tennessee to hear the Voltis. Am I asking for too much?  Appreciate any input.

 

 

 

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kjl1065

your choice of horn, single driver, concentric or open baffle doesnt make a lot of sense 

 

in order to sound full at low levels has nothing to do with those designs but instead is directly attributed to resolution and bass output. 

a speaker with full deep bass will sound great at lower volume levels and as long as that loudspeaker also has good resolution you will be able to hear everything at low volumes

 

we would recommend a pair of  Legacy focus se 

very deep bass flat to 18hz.

great resolution heil AMT tweeter and midrange 

great looking, hand made in the USA 

 

Dave and Troy

audio intellect NJ

legacy dealers

@erik_squires 

 

You know, you are sounding experimental and creative right now.   What about a DIY build in any of those categories?  Check out Madisound, Meniscus and Parts Express for ideas. 

You can build 3 different types of speakers for the budget you have, and in many cases buy cabinets or have them made for you. 

 

As a long time DIY'r, I couldn't agree more. DIY is a great way to end up with speakers that will sound as good as commercially available speakers at at least 5 times the money spent.

My current, and maybe my last pair of speakers, are the "Bordeaux" designed by Curt Campbell and Jim Holtz. 

They use an Aurum Cantus Aero Stricture tweeter (similar to an AMT), and a Accuton ceramic mid in a semi open baffle array. And 2  8" Dayton woofers per speaker in a standard ported enclosure. 

I have a total of about $3000.00 in them, which includes flat packs for the enclosures. And the end resulting sound quality  is easily comparable to commercially available speakers at around $15K. 

 

The Parts Express forums are a good place for technical help, but tend not to get very high end. 

And unfortunately, Meniscus Audio went out of business over a year ago. It is too bad, since they had some quite high end kits by most of the well respected designers.

Another great source, is Troels Graveson from Denmark. All his designs are pretty high end, but I don't believe he has any designs that will fit the OP's requirements. 

 

And lastly, a guy who has a pretty controversial reputation here, Danny Ritchie. I helped a friend build a pair of GR Research, NX-Otica, their 2nd to top, open baffle speaker kit. 

And anyone who says Danny is a charlatan, I doubt have ever actually heard one of his speakers. Because these kits are under $4000 including flat packs, and they sound substantially better than anything close to their price.

Sort of similar to your post about 1 month ago and I assume you are still seeking a speaker you find musical.  The speaker driver technology does not determine whether a speaker needs to be played loud to achieve musicality, or is able to be musical at lower volume levels.  Rather, it is the execution of the driver technology in the overall design intent. In addition, your system setup, room acoustics, and your own hearing factor into a speaker sounding “full and rich” at lower volume levels.  Driver sensitivity combined with adequate amplification power is one factor  that needs to be matched.  If there is inadequate power, this may cause a lack of musicality at lower volume levels, regardless of driver technology.  Attention to room acoustics can help balance frequency response at low listening levels.  You have already stated you are sensitive to the Fletcher-Munson curve.  This sensitivity to the curve is probably best alleviated by equalization, and you are considering that path.   I do not prefer equalization because to my ears, it affects clarity.   However, you should choose based on your goals and perception os SQ.  To generalize, high sensitivity speakers with a design intent for warm bass is the direction you should go with equalization.  You have listed a number of good speakers with that design intent.  I would add Harbeth and horn loaded Klipsch to your list.  I will not make a recommendation because the goal is what sounds compelling musical to you.  

Hi kjl1065,

First my opinion is your source and electronics are certainly up to the task. That opinion rests on two biases. First over years and several mixes of brands the configuration of a tube preamp driving solid state power amp is in my experience one of the rare hybrids where one gets the best of the two technologies. Second everytime I encounter Bryston power amps the transparency and effortlessness they exhibit impresses.

Now I will humbly invite you to consider my PureArtFi LS-6 as your next speaker. Matt over at Everyday Audiophile does an excellent job relating what the LS-6 is all about in his YouTube review:

PureArtFi LS-6 | Easily one of the best (I've heard)

And more info in this follow-up and our web site:

PureArtFi LS-6 | Follow-up discussion

PureArtFi LS-6

The reason I believe the LS-6 addresses your desire for "a loudspeaker that sounds rich, full bodied and alive at 50-55 decibel levels." is two fold. First the advances brought by Purifi Audio's USHINDI - Ultra Low Distortion Transducer Technology (USHINDI) set a new state-of-the-art in clarity at all levels including low SPLs thanks to both the lowering of HD & IMD distortions and very advanced magnetic system in drivers' motors. Second the extreme measures we take at PureArtFi in the enclosure design and build quiets the noise most speakers' boxes add to our music. 

Feel free to reach out using AudiogoN messaging or pureartfi.com's contact form to discuss this further.