Second failure of new amplifier


Two weeks ago I burned my new amplifier equipped with eight 6L6 tubes. I had been using the amp for one week before that and everything was OK. The failure occurred when I was switching the amp to the standby position and then to the "off" position (two small tubes and two central power tubes flared, so I switched it off and disconnected from the mains immediately). Switched on - no sound. I found out then that the failure was caused by one damaged 6L6 tube and one burnt fuse.

I replaced the fuse and one tube and everything was OK, until I decided to listen to the music today. I listened to it for 15 minutes, then the same problem occurred - when I was switching it to the standby position and then to the "off" position, there was a clapping sound, one 12AU7 tube ignited (flared strongly) and the tubes do not glow after switching on. I will explore this problem further when I come back from work.

When I was purchasing this amplifier (I would prefer not to disclose the manufacturer), my local dealer claimed that the amp had a "stabilized power supply design" or something like that. One of my audiophile friends dissuaded me from bying this amp, saying that 4 output tubes per channel may cause a problem. The dealer said "don't listen to him - he does not know what a "stabilized design" means."

I think I know now what is "stabilized design" - it's burning fuses and tubes every second day. My dealer is reluctant to take it back even for resale (I suggested that he took it for repair and sold it and only after that give me money), but he claims that the guarantee is void because I replaced the stock tubes (12AU7 and 6922) with my own (vintage)tubes and that I should have waited for a couple of months (while it was burning-in) and should have used it with stock tubes without replacing them for other tubes. He added that according to the European ISO standards, changing the tubes would void the warranty.

My questions are:

1. Does tube-rolling in a new amplifier always void the warranty?
2. Is it true that the auto-bias function (especially when the amp is powered with so many (8!) output tubes is unreliable as compared to manual bias adjustment (like my other amp - Cary SLI-80)?
3. Is it normal when a brand new amplifier behaves like this?

I will appreciate all comments, opinions and suggestions.
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Showing 3 responses by timrhu

I'm surprised by those who think tube rolling wouldn't void the warranty. Why would a manufacturer stand behind a product with parts he did not supply? That's crazy. Some waranties are void if you simply remove the equipment's cover, let alone exchange original parts.
I gather you don't have much technical experience with tubes. You can get a tube data manual and find that any given tube
That made me chuckle as I began my life as an electronic technician back in the days of tubes. Used to have a tube tester in my garage. I fully understand the principle of suitable substitution.
That being said, I'll admit I don't know much about warranties for tube electronics. It still would surprise me if a manufacturer is obligated to replace a defective unit when the defect was caused by a faulty tube (not supplied by the manufacturer) being placed in the equipment by the new owner. Just an assumption as I haven't read the warranty agreement, I could be wrong.
If the product had a defective tube socket that wasn't apparent until the original tube was removed that's a different issue and Transl was fortunate to discover it. This needs to be discussed with the dealer.
Mlsslt, who said anything about the brand of tube voiding the warranty? What I'm saying is if a user installs a DEFECTIVE part in a piece of gear which damages the piece, he just voided the warranty. If that doesn't void a particular warranty the manufacturer needs to hire better lawyers to write his warranty.