Schroder sq and the new talea


I heard there was to be a fun time of learning and comparing of these two arms at the rmaf. Since the talea is relatively new, it still has to stand the test of time with comparisons on other tables, other systems and the selective and subjective tastes of discerning audiophiles! There is to be a comparison in one of the rooms at the rmaf this year, which i wasnt able to make. I would be curious to hear some judicial, diplomatic, friendly talk about how they compared to each other in the same system and room. I currently own the origin live silver mk3 with a jan allaerts mc1bmk2 and am enjoying this combo but have become curious about the more popular "superarms" Hats off to both frank and joel.

I hope this thread draws more light rather than heat. If someone preferred one arm over the other it would be OK. With all the variables it doesnt mean that much to me. What matters to me is what it sounds like to me and in my room. With that said...

What was your bias? was it for the schroder or the talea?

cheers!...
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Granted that it was impossible to distinguish the effect of the tonearms in this comparison. But one thing was clear to me - the Talea setup outperformed the Schroder setup by a significant margin. Joel Durand played a piece by Ravel that floored me. He played it at concert volumes, which is to say, much less loud than what you normally hear out of a stereo reproduction. This is a huge challenge to stereo playback because we often compensate for lost detail by raising the volume.

The Ravel piece had three crescendos of very short duration. The rest of the piece ranged from rather quiet to extreme pianissimo. In this range I have never heard such dynamic nuance and tonal color coming from a stereo system. I have only heard that in a concert hall. Without these nuances the music is generic and dull. My perception was that the listeners in the room fidgeted quite a bit when the piece was played on the Schroder system - and for good reason. It could not deliver that level of detail. So the musical interest was lost.

Fascinating to hear the Talea setup in absolute terms, not just in comparison to the Schroder setup.
Hi Mikelavigne,

I had exactly the same impressions. And so did two others that I was with in the room. I think the differences were pretty obvious. That being said, I have no idea what was the greatest contributing factor. I am wondering about the Soundsmith cartridge compared to the Dyanvector though. Your comment about the Basie 45-vs-33 comparison was interesting. Could the differences that you heard be a function of the cartridge as opposed to the arm?