SACD Player/Transport Choices


I am planning to acquire a McIntosh MCT500 to go with my C53 (proprietary MCT connection).  But I am wondering if there are other good SACD transport choices that will send a true DSD stream to an external DAC on a non-proprietary basis, either through USB or I2S.  I’m trying to research this, but it’s difficult to find definitive answers regarding the actual digital stream from SACD - often I discover that the stream is converted to PCM.  I do know PSAudio has a scheme similar to McIntosh.

I realize simply purchasing DSD and streaming from an SSD is probably more practical these days.  But I am sort of fixated on a physical disc player.  Budget-wise, most interested in transports around or below that of the MCT500 (~$5K). Thanks for your thoughts and advice.

mattsca

@richardbrand Yeah, it only took a couple minutes of checking to verify that like the Oppo previously mentioned they are players and all of the processing is done internally. The resulting output may be passed via HDMI but it is definitely analog. 

@faustuss

Not sure if you are referring to the Reavon universal disk transport / players, but the UBR-X110 I mentioned is a pure transport and its outputs are digital only - 2 x HDMI, 1 x coax digital and 1 x optical digital.  It transports SACD natively over HDMI.

The UBR-X200 on the other hand does add two Burr-Brown DACs, one for two-channel analogue playback and one for multi-channel, including SACDs.  These DACs are inferior to the ESS Sabre DACs in the Oppo, in particular because they cannot natively process DSD.  They down-convert to CD quality!  So in my book, the DACs in the 200 are a waste of money, especially when compared to the DAC-less 110.  Both are excellent transports.

HDMI is a digital standard, but that does not stop others from trying to push analogue down the cable.  The Dometic analogue TV cameras in my motorhome connect to the display head using an HDMI cable and standard connections, which are particularly unsuitable for in-vehicle installations.  There is a rugged HDMI connector made specifically for in-vehicle use, but Dometic don't use it.  This is an unnatural act, in my opinion, like using HDMI cable for I2S 

The ONIX will be shown at AXPONA this weekend by the us distributor. I believe DSD over I2s

Like DAT, CD/SACD player are mechanical devices, sooner or later they will fail requiring service. I refer to SACD and Cd equally here.

Whether broken or worn o-rings, belts, laser rot, or the usual caps drying out, they won't last. I have many SACD and CDs, all of them are ripped to hard drive and streamed as preference, far more convenient to search.

The SQ is pretty much up there compared with CD playback, however streaming from Qobuz, Tidal, Apple etc. meh, a bit of a way to go.

I do like to play CDs, however for the long term, like my remaining 20-30 years, I will outlive a SACD player which means one day it will fail and two I own are already 'jittery', one takes 3-5 shots to load and recognise a disc, the other just stops playing about 15minutes into a disc and won't play in the summer due to humidity. Such unreliability I can do without, the whole enjoyment tanks.

There's uncertainty with file playback, however with management and judicious backups, there's a plan to get around known shortcomings. Streamers are a plenty, even more DACs, CD players not so much. A CD Player will start rotting, even if kept as a spare. Of spares, ever tried to buy a Sony CD player spare part, unobtanium.

Going to have to come to terms that CD playback is for nostalgia.

@richardbrand, totally agree with using I2S with HDMI. I2S is really LVDS with so many different pinouts, far better to use an RJ45 instead of the crappy and temperamental HDMI connector, let alone the cable properties with so many cores and cross talk.