SACD Player/Transport Choices


I am planning to acquire a McIntosh MCT500 to go with my C53 (proprietary MCT connection).  But I am wondering if there are other good SACD transport choices that will send a true DSD stream to an external DAC on a non-proprietary basis, either through USB or I2S.  I’m trying to research this, but it’s difficult to find definitive answers regarding the actual digital stream from SACD - often I discover that the stream is converted to PCM.  I do know PSAudio has a scheme similar to McIntosh.

I realize simply purchasing DSD and streaming from an SSD is probably more practical these days.  But I am sort of fixated on a physical disc player.  Budget-wise, most interested in transports around or below that of the MCT500 (~$5K). Thanks for your thoughts and advice.

mattsca

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Boy am I every glad I stumbled across this thread. A lot of knowledgeable members on the very subject I am curious about. 

Currently own both an Oppo BDP-95 and a UDP-205. I love them both but I do wonder how long they are for this world. Right now the 205 is serving as both my Blu-Ray player and my CD/SACD transport. I have had difficulties getting the UDP to talk to my DAC, a Ferrum Wandla, with an eBay HDMI/I2S converter in between (similar kind as @big_greg mentioned) but that is very much a WIP due to an outstanding DAC support issue. So I can’t yet confirm what @mahler123 has reported - that the UPD-205 is definitely sending true DSD info over the HDMI out. (Going PCM via coax to my DAC, np.)

On the future proofing side I am looking at getting a backup SACD/CD transport in the event Oppo will no longer support my spinners. Based on the above I’m on the fence as per the Onix Zenith that @hifipassion has or the Reavon X110 that @richardbrand mentioned. Prima facie it would look simple - the Reavon - given that I plan to play all kinds of discs. It’s also half the price. But two considerations remain...

1) How long will the Reavon company be around to support said product (Shanling I do not believe is going anywhere any time soon - they big.)?
2) So do I purchase the Onix and just find a cheap 4K spinner down the road and own two types of transports?

Now if I had to distill down my shotgun post down to an ask I guess it comes down to which of these two will be the better SACD/CD transport for DSD over I2S and info on this is not easily found out there. This is where I would welcome some input from the thread (And no I am not going to fight 199 other people to buy one of Paul’s $8500 swan song signature machines.)

Look forward to what others have to say here. Hope it’s not a silly ask. Thx in advance.

@richardbrand 

Thanks for the keystrokes. I mistakenly thot you had the junior Reavon. My bad sir. And yes I am familiar with the Magnetar.

Still waiting for what others have to say, but given the guts of the X110 are inferior to the model you have I might lean more to the Onix (Shanling) as I anticipate Blu-ray players will be manufactured for some time to come.

Honestly, all of this would just be so much simpler if Oppo would just start up transport production again and roll out another audio flagship. Like what's the big deal, it's not like it's soooo much to ask!

@richardbrand 

Thank you ever so much for your extra fulsomeness. That really helps inform my path forward. My gut check is pointing in the direction of the Onix (in focusing on getting a music transport sans DAC) based on your keystrokes. As it stands I think my UDP will soldier on for some time yet as I rip my CD collection / continue using streaming services and consequently draw down on spinning discs with the exception of SACDs & movies. So with that projected use case I don’t think I need a Swiss army knife, I need a scalpel. And if I ever need the toothpick attachment down the road (a replacement Blu-ray player) that will most likely still be easily found. 

@gimmer 

@hifipassion

@armyslowdr

Please keep those impressions on Onix performance coming!
Very interested to see how you find it to be.
Thx.