Dr. Diamond -- same here. |
The average citizen who might think DVD-A is the way to go because it has that new-fangled DVD right in the title so it must be high tech as all get out,
is probably not the target customer or early adopter of high rez digital music
playback. The early adopters are buying up SACD's. And, I can understand to
a degree how *some* people can't find SACD titles to interest them, I've already bought over 100 of them. By reading the reviews on WWW.SACDINFO.COM, I have been able to buy with some helpful info at my disposal and I've been really happy about all of my purchases. For my taste, there are a lot of great SACD's for sale right now. I'm not waiting for
any war to settle. I'm voting with my pocketbook. For SACD. |
Between Dweller, Diamond and I, you have empirical evidence that a segment of the music buying population is not wary of SACD's, we're wary of buying redbook CD's that will be obsolete the moment the SACD version is released. |
Mr. Campbell, perhaps you should write this down so you don't misquote me every time this debate pops up. I wrote that on *ONE* of my SACD's, The Rolling Stones' Let it Bleed, I prefer the MIXES on some of the CD tracks, but the SACD layer has better SONICS. So, even on THAT hybrid, the superiority of the SACD FORMAT is demonstrated. So, now I have over 100 SACD's and
on ONE of them, I prefer the MIX on a few of the CD tracks. Further, I do appreciate the trojan horse strategy. These hybrid SACD releases have been successful. ANYTHING that puts MORE SACD's in the marketplace so I can get my hot little hands on them. As to me taking your comments as a dig at SACD -- LOL. Bad guess. Try to stay on topic this time. |
The reason you don't see a hybrid SACD section at Tower Records is because they keep the hybrid SACD's mixed in with regular CD's and advertize them as "remastered CD's." That way -- the great unwashed buy them as remastered CD's while subsidizing the SACD industry, making them available to those of us who are interested in them. Further, many companies, like Concord, a jazz label, are experiencing a complete rebirth because of SACD. I buy most of my SACD's through a web-site that specializes in audiophile
recordings -- I'm going to bet SACD is driving a lot of sales for them. I don't see any decrease in SACD releases -- I see an increase. I also see an increase
in titles that interest me and I'm having no problem acquiring a large collection of well engineered SACD's. Shopping for car stereos, I see that car stereos are starting to incorporate SACD players -- clearly -- the format is driving profits for somebody -- the Dylan and Stones releases were touted as successes so I'm going to guess we'll see more companies capitalizing on their catalogue similarly -- I don't see SACD going away anytime soon. It looks to me like I'm going to have the opportunity to build a huge collection
of SACD's to play in my SACD player promising millions of hours of sonic heaven. To those who don't want to partake for whatever reason -- to each his own. |
>>This policy is damaging to the pro-SACD<<
Mmm hmmm....and then what? The sky will fall? Forcasts are just opinions.
They are worth the ether upon which they are written. Sounds like a whole lot of conjecture to me. If W, X, and Y happen, then it MIGHT MAYBE POSSIBLY
cause C and that MIGHT POSSIBLY MAYBE....
In the meantime, more and more SACD's are being released, SACD has entered the mobile audio market, more and more universal and SACD
players are entering the market and my collectiom continues to grow,
and the number of hours spent in front of my SACD player grows and
grows and grows....
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Richard --
I am collecting the Mahler series by the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra
conducted by Michael Tilson Thomas. I have the 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 6th.
They are a prized part of my collection. Is that the Mahler series to which
you are referring? Any other classical SACD's you can recommend would
be appreciated. I've been focused mostly on Jazz, but I would like to
build my classical library as well. I have the Bach Golberg Variations
performed by Murray Pehria, which is also wonderful, and a few others.
Rob |
The other point is that while SACD naysayers keep predicting the sky will fall, more and more SACD and Universal players are entering the market, more and more SACD's are being released, etc. Now, instead of CONJECTURING,
GUESSING, and attempting to PROGNOSTICATE, *I* am sharing *MY* experience, which is the guideline here at Audiogon. So, *my* experience as a SACD enthusiast is that this alleged decision to re-release the Dylan remasters in a CD-only version is not affecting me and I don't expect it to
affect me. So, complaining that I am "missing the point" about the harm that
is being done to SACD when no harm is perceived, no harm has been
reported, etc --- only forcasted based on some guesswork and conjecture seems a little misguided, IMO.
But -- hey -- that's just me. |
The point is that we don't know WHY Dylan remasters are being released in CD, so to forcast DAMAGE to SACD, you first have to GUESS at the INTENTION behind the release, then you have to add CONJECTURE -- after you've added conjecture to guesswork, you use that as the basis for PREDICTING that if your guesswork and conjecture are correct, then it MIGHT damage SACD.
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Metralla -- I read about Mobile Audio SACD players in some of the coverage from the recent CES and then my local car stereo guy also told me that SACD
players for the car are in the pipeline. |
The other point that was missed is that three posters said that, rather than
a CD release damaging SACD, we are hesitant to buy CD's because we'd rather wait for the SACD. So, some *might* hesitate to buy a hybrid, waiting instead for a cheaper CD-only remaster, but that's assuming this will be a trend and it assumes that Sony will stop issuing the hybrid version first, which are huge assumptions, seeing as how Sony is behind SACD. Finally, how many people are hesitating to buy CD's because they are waiting for an SACD version? How many people will actually hold off from buying hybrids because they'd rather wait on the off-chance that a cheaper CD-only version will be released later? Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I think it is a lot of idle speculation. I *know* what I am doing. I am buying up SACD's. In the last few months a lot of music that interests me has appeared on SACD and it is extremely well engineered. My collection is 100+ and growing. As I've written, I am voting with my pocketbook for High Rez. I will not let the "sky is falling" anti-SACD crowd dissuade me. I think the concern over a possible sell-through CD-only version is much ado about nothing.
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