SACD hybrids bad policy from Sony/Columbia?

Sean,
I'm not sure about the sales, Dylan has a hardcore following (I bought the lot upfront)and I think the sales from what I can gather are good probably better than expected-more than the Stones?

I would expect so-I would argue the Dylan remasters are probably the single most succesful back catalogue release.

With this in mind, the Stones are massive live which is where they make their cash today- I think it doesn't look good for this approach.

To take your other point which is a massive one to me with regards SACD-if that had happened I would be sitting with a very expensive SACD player.

I see Rsbeck you've taken my post as a dig at SACD - it wasn't,I simply don't understand Sony's policy other than greed and giving floating voters the chance to avoid buying SACD.

There is no doubt those with good SACD replay are more than happy,no make that delighted with the format.
I'd love to hear Tireguys new player because clearly it's world class in CD replay but also gives the bonus of "going to another level" with SACD.

However you have contradicted yourself over these SACD debates-you were a big fan of this Trojan Horse policy and this is clearly a spanner in the works.
Also you've stated in the past some of The Stones hybrids sound better on the CD layer so that hardly makes the CD obsolete.

We look at things differently for sure but I realise how happy you are with what you experience listening to SACD; my worry is that SACD will not survive outwith the niche Audiophile market and the signs are is that it is simply not entering into the mainstream nor probably ever will.

If the likes of the Emms Lab technology could filter down to a more affordable level and ALL music was released as SACD then we'd surely all win as lovers of music-as it is it might never happen if Sony are pulling these kind of stunts.
I don't believe for a minute there is not some brilliant music you would love to hear on SACD and can't.
The way things are going you might never hear them on SACD.

Rsbeck ok,chill sir.

I'll take your word for the different mix on the layer,I haven't heard a different mix on any layer of the twenty or so SACD hybrids I own but I could be wrong and I see no point in digging out the disc to get caught in a petty debate.

I take your point on SACD superiority over the 100 discs.

I think I started this thread and it wasn't me who strayed off topic,most of the responses do that but I've long given up on the defensive stances of those who see no flaws in how SACD is developing so I hardly expect them to deal with my main point.

The main point of this thread has been missed as the usual SACD debates are wheeled out.

People who have bought the Dylan Hybrids and paid £13 here in the UK are now going to get the opportunuity to buy the same discs for £8.

Let's say another major artist releases a whole bunch of Hybrids at £13-isn't there a now suspicious bunch of potential buyers who think mmmmm a few months from now the same discs are going to £8.

The whole point I was trying to make is that policy is probably already being abandoned,the whole beauty of hybrids was that potentially in the future non-SACD owners might consider a machine because they had SACD's in their collection.
I would suspect feedback to Sony/Columbia is that the price of the hybrids has held sales back and they are more interested in sales now than pushing this format.

This policy is damaging to the pro-SACD group but they seem unwilling to admit this policy damages the format and may indeed indicate a change in overall policy.

I'll make a prediction since we seem to be moving in this direction,SACD's sales will level out soon,stay stable maybe even healthy and will not increase at all from then and in all probability start to decline.

Then it will be down to the individual labels as to whether they keep it as a niche Audiophile format which they probably will at their high cost.
It won't grow though imho and the vast majority of the best of recorded music in history will never see SACD release.

Rsbeck I think in your last post you've argued your point well.

I know you think I take every opportunity to kick SACD-I don't and I truly hope to be able to return to it one day (in earnest)when it is a level that suits me.

This post was expressed out of actual surprise at this news.

There is much to be decided and we take different views on predicting what will happen with SACD.
Time will tell.
I think we both approach music in different ways.
However I am glad your SACD playback brings you much joy.

As for the sky falling I don't know about that but here in Glasgow at the moment it is absolutely pissing down.