Rolling Stones Mono Box Set (lp or cd)


I wanted to get the ball rolling. I thought that including both formats here would be beneficial to the entire discussion. I personally have little experience with the Rolling Stones. However, I think I can add an opinion in the form of having heard lots of music from this era and how this box relates to the Beatles Mono Box. I'm currently using my stereo cart. I've listened to the first 5 lps in chronological order.

One thing that has stood out to me is how consistent these 5 lps are in sound quality. ( "Out Of Our Heads", US has more pronounced bass, haven't listened to the UK yet.) This is kind of unusual in my listening experience. Compared to the Beatles Mono box which wasn't as consistent, album to album. I find the detail, the ambient retrieval, and the bass overall to be very good. What bothers me is I feel it is recorded too hot as well as I feel the overall sound seems somewhat very slightly artificial. ( I never felt this way listening to the Beatles Mono box). These last two issues may have to do with the re-mastering chain. It may be the quality of the mics, the recording venue, etc...I don't know. I don't have the originals to compare. There is the dimensional character of the soundstage that is very nice as was the Beatles. The vinyl itself is super quiet but I see that a few of these will need to be flattened. So far, there isn't an pressed "off-center" issue.
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When I read this in the original posters start of this thread: 
"One thing that has stood out to me is how consistent these 5 lps are in sound quality."
I immediately suspected that the original recordings probably did not have a consistent sound, and that required the consistency to be a result of audio engineering after the "master tapes."
Let me be clear:  I do not know if my suspicions are true!
But, to make a case, those records were recorded over a period from circa 1964-1970-something? During that period the explosion of record sales feed big changes in the recording studios. 2 and 4 track were common; was 4 track 'state of the art' in the early mid-60's. By 1970 had 8 track recording become more common?
There was probably also a learning curve by everyone involved, from musicians to studio engineers to equipment makers.
I remember reading that The Beatles after a few years and 3 or 4 or LPs told George Martin that they couldn't really hear the Ringo's drums, or bass drums. They thought they role in the recording process precluded them, the musicians reporting to the recording (was Martin the producer--whatever he was) that the sound quality of the recordings was not to their liking.
And we haven't even talked about  mono vs . stereo vs bass before subwoofers. Add up dozens or hundreds of things like that, and I would expect any LP recorded in the UK (and America) in 1964 to sound different than one recorded 5 years later.
Sorry for the long rant.
And Keith Richards is wrong. Srgt Pepper is great. 
I was a bit afraid I'd be on the end of a flame attack. I like to call it as I see it.
Aside, in the mid-1990's I met someone whose business was archiving a large volume of vintage TV shows (mostly US) from the 50 into the 70's. He was also in charge of leasing footage--he had a lot of variety shows with famous musical guests. He had a lot of vintage equipment we would all drool over.
He said he had heard some Beatles recordings they may have been master tapes, or early generations of master tapes. He told me that the commercial product out there was an incredible poor simulation* of the tapes. This was before the CD re-issues of a few years ago. 
Some of the best SQ I've heard was a garage band, drums and electric guitar, recorded onto VHS tape, and then transferred to cassette tape. I think the big benefit came from listening to a second generation with none of the following: eq-ing, mixing, limiters, expanders, reverb, harmonic recovery, loudness, Dolbly--nuthin. Directly from my heart, um microphone, to you. Even though we all know that VHS and cassette are low end.
Sorry for the long rant; If I had more time I'd write a shorter post.
* If anyone misses the references, ask.