Rock: well recorded bass...60s/70s


whatz up with bass on most rock recordings? is it that hard to get a decent bass sound? must be...as most bass sounds are either a)muddy or b)razor thin...however the bass I found on Santana Abraxas is outstanding though...very dimensional...with a reach out and touch quality...any other recordings that might have this quality?
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ok well i cant speak of any of those BUT I can tell you that as for The Faces i cant get any bass from the cd let alone the LP. Even in my car with 2 10's subbed-out very low with a decent amount of gain and still no bass.

I do agree that some recordings have better bass "capture" meaning in the recording process. memay disagree but recording bass and capturing bass correctly is very difficult for alot of recording engineers. there are very few who get it right. Most of the time the bass guitar is recorded directly into the mixing console which makes it sound very thin. and even eq'ing it still doesnt get it right.

Very few have been able to capture bass in a room correctly. at least in the 60 and 70's but again there are plenty of recordings to use for reference on vinyl.

Even in the 80's bass was lack there if in the rock world.

get the new metallica "black album" reissue, absolutely insane controlled bass which has alot to do with the capturing and original recording process.
Bonogofury as mentioned I do not have any of those titles on LP so i can make a comparison, what i said was in regards to the a cd. oh and the Faces CD does sound great but again CD.

Audiofeil what software was used in the 60's and 70's?
Audiofeil why would one record sound very nice and the next not so very nice? Talking about two different records of course.
Bongofury,

So the point is if someone has a copy of an early Stones record and as more and more are pressed the quality could degrade?

If so maybe that's why the original poster has the issues he has maybe?

I am just asking because i bought the first "America" album on reissue a few weeks ago and yes it sounds good but supposedly America back in the day tried to make great sounding albums and i don't think this is a great sounding album, BUT 95% of my collection sounds very very good across the audio spectrum.

If a TT is set up wrong wouldn't everything sound wrong?

Just trying to figure out why some people say oh this record sounds great mean while when i try it, it doesnt sound good at all to me, could there also be a matter of opinion about all this.

Peoples first thought is setup but i think there are just as many poorly produced records out there and what one might think is great someone else could think is poor.

Am I making sense? at all!
Pdn be careful there are people on here that will argue with you about this, like maybe a speaker isn't placed right, or there is a curtain hanging a little too low on the right side of the room or your cd player isn't leveled.

ME I agree with you 110%

I too am replacing some older cd's and its funny you mention jackson browne "saturate before using" would be great re-mastered.
Bongofury and PDN,

Prediction!

There will be no more digital medium meaning all digital music will be stored, purchased and transmitted over fiber and never having to insert anything again, weather cd, blue ray, sacd, hdcd or ZZZVVGG (made up ).

Or

Dropping a needle and play!, Long Live Analog

Although watching a nice Concert on DVD or Blueray on a sweet two channel set up is awesome.

It’s strange they never tried to improve analog like they do digital I guess the room for improvement wasn’t there as compared to digital.

I am a fan of both formats, although I am not a big IPOD guy even though I have one its nice not to have my cd collection all over my car  but your bit rate I my opinion should be no less than 256. I sacrifice space.

Anyone agree or disagree, or another point of view is welcome.
Chadeffect what about 8track, yes talking about "tape" agreed YES many different "upgrades" were tried. the biggest bonus I believe was that you could record and tapes take up less space, gee kinda like digital.
Chadeffect

YES its classic kids have no clue about Vinyl. LOL

I grew up on vinyl with my dad and obviously we all hopped on the band wagon with cd's.

happy holidays.

and to be honest i never heard an 8 track before. Am I missing anything?
This whole topic is a doubled edge sword. I believe that the only point in music history where bass lacked in recordings was in the 80's and for some dumb reason that was on purpose.

Although recording techniques have come a long long way that MAKES recording bass easier because it does take a little imagination to get it right and if the producers and engineers back then didn't have that then the obvious would happen.

Also BASS is a matter of opinion anyway in fact all of this is a matter of opinion, so enjoy what you like.