Ridiculous assertions that someone is being ripped off or conned

The mistake that they made was post it here.

Just keep your happiness to yourself.

Understood. In most cases that should and does work fine.

But we are rapidly approaching the point where ’opting out’ of the conflict that is encountered... where the insanity of such projections in weakness of mental capacity, hearing capacity, reasoning capacity and civility in relations... where those projections in/of violence -are being a detriment to the forum and it’s intent. It’s tearing the place apart.

At that point, if the forum is valued by the members, at all...one has to stop turning the other cheek.. and make it clear, that this poorly reasoned position (and continual projection) of ’hatred and violence’ toward others who are working to advance audio...that this insanity - has to be countered.

Canuck audio tames it by having a cable and tweak area for threads. Where any counter to the idea that such things are functional (in attempt or in analysis), is not tolerated.

Meaning.. threads where people discuss tweaks, or mods or cables and so on, if a naysayer posts there, and interrupts the discussion, in any way, they get their posts deleted. And...if the given naysayer can’t hold their tongue, after said deletion-ish warnings..... they will, rapidly, via any repeats in behavior, find themselves banned from the forum. They have to grow up, or get lost.

Sooner or later the wild grass needs to be trimmed, otherwise it will entropically destroy the Raison d’être attempt of taming the wilds of the unknowns in audio.

The maximal aspects of ’the good being the enemy of the great’ are at play here. The nasty group can be more violent, in the real world and in projections on paper or in posting. That fundamental in such projections - it inevitably has to be countered, otherwise we become lesser in connectivity and in our entire society/culture.

If one values audio (as a vehicle to deliver satisfaction via music) do not let the Pol Pots of the mundane world of average intellect and capacity - force their retrograding nightmare upon the fabric of Audio. A little knowledge, is a dangerous thing. Hard core Dunning-Kruger is at play here.

"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything." - Albert Einstein.

The dark twist, is that they think they are doing the good in the audio world. I’m pretty sure that Pol Pot thought he was doing the same.

Canuck audio forum cable forum rules end up being effective in this sort of way:

The premise, is that area of the fourm is for threads that talk about tweaks, cables, the efficacy of mods and tweaks, what they should sound like, or not sound like. It does not preclude talking about the idea of discovery work in why they work the way they do. it does not preclude discussing the potentials in science and engineering and the discovery work in why they appear to work they way they do.

What is forbidden, is to interrupt such discussions about such product, devices, ideas and/or musing on it all. It is forbidden to interrupt and call it all lies, and snake oil, hogwash, unreal,and so on.

One is forbidden to ARGUE that it is all garbage. That it is all unscientific.

One can discuss the efficacy of such thing and investigate it’s origins.

One can’t denigrate and attack it’s basis for being or it’s exploration in a negative way.

That’s it. nothing more.

If there is a discussion of any type of that nature going on, and the negativity was not invited, then it can’t get into the conversation.

If the topic INVITES the discussion of it’s basis or reality, in science, THEN the discussion of such - is on. but importantly, not in a ngetive way that says the premise is unreal.

Where lets say, I heard what I heard. The naysayer cannot, even by sly wording, via gaming their wording - argue agaisnt the hearing of it. I heard what I heard. the end. what all that means is fair game if the duscssion of it is invited. but the heard thing was heard. That -----is not posible to dispute.

And no, they don’t have to announce that they don’t want the negative input. Negative input is forbidden unless specifically asked for.

Oh yes, hatred against tweaks and cables, etc, starting such thread in the cable and tweaks forum area -is forbidden. If one want to to do that, they can go and do that in some other forum area.

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The result, is that no one talks about how good or bad cables are, how good or bad tweaks are, how such things sound, and so on. No one bothers, as they already know the stuff is real and it works. it works well, or or works poorly (for the individual, etc). it is a good deal a bargain... or it is a poor choice? and results vary, for people and their audio systems. this is all expected and is all known things, for the people who think and do such, concerning their own audio systems.

But, importantly, IF the subjectively heard sonic results of experimentation, is raised (I hear this, etc).. no one is allowed to INTERFERE in the conversation. No one is allowed to inject any negative takes into the conversation.

If they want to do that, they have to go to OTHER forum areas to do that. they can create a thread where they burn flags and effigies of the horrible tweak and cable using/discussing people.

The people who use tweaks and cables, etc.. where they understand it subjectively or even scientifically... they won’t interfere or get involved, for the most part. they know they are dealing with projections and Karen complexes (some are even visibly frothing!), much of it executed or framed in a VERY poorly misunderstood idea of what science is. Haters, talk amongst yourselves, is the result. No. One. Cares.

The result is peace, bliss, silence. Cable and tweak dissent and hatred disappears from the forum, almost entirely.

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What is all ends up saying:

If one is worried that all that cable and tweak stuff is going to take over the given forum, well, simply... it does not happen. It just doesn’t. that boogeyman does not exist. It’s a projecting Karen twist of the mind.

What does exist, though... is the outsized hatred based response to tweaks and cables, etc.

That reactionary insanity..when it is disallowed from interrupting discussions, it is found to be what the tweaker and cable believers know it to be --an emotionally based animal response that is totally out of control. That the cable hater doth protest too much. And that is the part that has to be told off and cooled off, blocked off.

And the result, is peace for all, in this subject area only, of course. There are plenty of other things to react blindly about, for everybody....