Ridiculous assertions that someone is being ripped off or conned


How many times has this scenario played out here? Someone purchases product X, and tries it in their system. They report positive results, that it works as advertised, that they got their money’s worth, that they are happy with the purchase. Then someone, usually having zero experience with the product, replies with something like: “No, you’ve got it all wrong! You’re being ripped off! You’re being conned!


Does anyone else understand how ridiculous and absurd these kinds of assertions are?! The consumer who actually put up their own money and took the time to evaluate the product in their own home/system reports it works as advertised, they are happy with it, that they got their money’s worth. Then someone else claims they were ripped off?!


Imagine an agency investigating consumer fraud getting a complaint like this: “My neighbor is being ripped off!” “No, no, he thinks it’s great, does everything he expected it to. He’s very happy with it, but I just know he’s being conned!” Do you seriously think they’re going to open any kind of investigation into it?


You can disagree with what someone says about the effectiveness of a product all you want, but to say they have been defrauded, when they report the exact opposite, is patently ridiculous.


tommylion

Showing 4 responses by mijostyn

tommylion, get out on the wrong side of bed this morning?

Have a good look at your email box. More than 1/2 of it is someone trying to scam you. An unfortunate number of people fall for these scams which is why they continue. Some people have enough knowledge to be able to identify some of these scams and try to warn others.

The problem with human hearing is that it is extremely easy to be deluded into thinking you hear something which in reality you do not. Unless you have a very controlled situation you can not take at face value what someone says they hear and that includes all reviewers. 

 @noromance, Not.

@tommylion, I have some real estate I would like to sell you.

It is one thing to discuss the build quality of a unit, its reliability, the customer service of the company that makes it and it's overall sound capability. It is a totally different issue supporting your cable on little marble blocks and to extole the INCREDIBULE, FN UNBELEIVABLE IMPROVEMENT they made in the sonic virtues of your system. This kind of ...nonsense is, for lack of a kinder term, pitiful. It is OK to feel insecure in your position. The way to respond to this is to do some research. Everything has a reason. There is no mystery in any of this. If something is shrouded in mystery odds on it is a scam and many audiophiles are easy targets. It is wise to be skeptical of just about everything. 

 

 

Tommylion, wonderful. I am sure there are things you can do with your room that will make an improvement. For starts get yourself a good measurement system like this one below and have a look at what your system is actually doing. It will also point out where you can make improvements. If there are issues you can not fix with room treatments you might start getting involved with DSP. There are many great processors now for reasonable money.                                                                                                                  

@jpwarren58, I think you are right. Some of them are. 

That fact that a system appears to sound better after an inconsequential change is explained fully by the way we process sensory input. That "improvement" is not durable so like a rat pressing a button to get a treat the behavior repeats continully.

The people who make audiophile garbage are obviously quite aware of this based on the marketing they conjure up in an attempt to provide a rational explanation for a sonic benefit. They are knowingly taking advantage of people who are either  unaware of this sensory trait or unwilling to accept it's reality. 

Looking at it from another angle, money changing hands is always good for the economy and it generates taxes, just like cigarette smoking and gasoline consumption. 

Tommylion, do yourself a favor and save up your money for a good set of speakers. You'll get a lot more bang for yur money.